I have gotten 4 healer/support Daily Quests on HotS. This has never happened before. Healer/support heros are the most un-upgraded worst heroes to play. At least mod Tyrande and Malfurion. Tyrande should be dps and Malfurion should be modded for actual gameplay. Those two cannot hold their own early game 1v1. They’re useless and it kills me that two OG’s are so weak in this game
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I literally do not know how to process this.
Healers/supports are fine insofar as your assertion goes – including Malfurion and Tyrande. Stick with it, and you’ll see. (But in the meantime, try Rehgar and Kharazim?)
This is because they are healer supports…RIGHT?!
Yea, Healers are not supposed to be able to hold their own in 1v1s, that’s a Bruiser role.
That defiantly used to be the case but some healers have some real kill pressure now if your not careful.
Unless you’re LiLi you won’t be 1v1ing too many people. Malf is a great hero with his roots and moonfare spam.
If you’re not careful… everything is threatening if you’re not careful, but you can still 1v1 healers down.
healer/supports are force amplifiers: the better they spread their effects with allies involved, the higher the value they bring to the whole team. More assassins is an additive mod, while healers are multiplicative. If you’re trying to 1v1, you’re likely picking the wrong class (save for like 2 examples) not bidding your time and/or not taking the talents that actually suit the match-up.
Malf used to 1v1 well at lvl 1, but now he has to wait till lvl 4, but that may as well be end-game if people aren’t soaking xp.
Tyrande gets her sustained dps by 16 and can certainly be one of the best duelists come 20. If these heroes could 1v1 at early game, then teams may as well just pick 4-5 healer comps instead of spreading the roles around.
Maybe you could ‘mod’ your own experience with some better expectations instead of getting ‘killed’ over bad fanboyisms
Also pretty sure Tyrande can out trade almost anyone with no CC by dodging their Skillshots and kiting them.
How long does that take?
I’m sure healers should not be the one laning. You give that job to your dmg dealers or bruisers.
Very long. Its possible, but i didnt say its efficient
Exactly why I asked how long it would take
Lets put aside the “if your careful” thing then.
I still don’t think healers are nearly as defenseless as op suggests.
Malf might have a hard time but tyrande is atleast not awful in a duel at 13 if shes building flare.
And don’t tell me youve never seen the likes of whitemane or kharazim beat someone up. Even at high levels.
Healers are definetely not defenseless or useless, but their power budget is not focused on 1v1, so trying to do that with them is like hammering a screw.
You mention Tyrande but you have to understand that her purposes is simply put different than most healers, where she is useless if she deals no damage, and she unlike some is one of the highest skill required especially in the micro department (I’d willingly debate that she might have unnecessarily the most micro in the game) because that’s how she gets her healing and her kit running.
Also unlike other healers, she has a lock down stun that is very dangerous if it hits someone who tries to run away or set up the entire engage.
She is literally built upon damage.
Also Darnassian Archery is strong but has the prolonged fight issue and competing with a cleanse that got like 5 patch notes nerfed because it was too strong, and is still strong.
What about 1v2
Deckard Cain is an unkillable old fella too.
Speaks softly and carries a big stick.
Just wait a year or two.
I see you’re a person of culture.