Military Time Toggle

Clicking the time in the main menu toggles between military time and civilian time. I found this out today.

Did you know about the time toggle? Are there any novel things like this which took you a really long time to notice or find out about?

Yes, I occasionally click it, when aiming for the menu.
It’s a funny thing you express it this way (military/civil). In my country we use 0-24 notation anyway, there is no AM/PM as a standard. We say ā€œfour in the afternoonā€, but for any sort of document, the hour is two digits, not 3-5. Also, 0:00-24:00 is a continuous time, no confusion, in particular 12:24 pm could be derived both as 0:24 and 12:24 (pm = +12, instead of 12:00-24:00 bracket, hour modulo 12). Same with dates btw, yyyy-mm-dd ftw.

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The reason its there so that you never touch the 12-hour system ever again.

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I just like military time because it looks cool, and tagging every number with two letters feels ugly and wrong to me xD

I knew this for a long time but since I live in Europe I mostly use the 24 hour format.

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Being that I am always surrounded by the AM/PM setting it is pointless for me as a yank to try and adopt the 24 hour setting. Same with using kilometers for mileage with metric measurements mixed in with yank measuring because gotta have both.

Amusingly, I cannot find a setting that allows me to flip over to military time on my computer.

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I clicked it by accident, and just left it on for a while because I didn’t know how to turn it off (just click it again, duh)

I do find it interesting that this is ā€˜military time’ when it’s also used in science and the medical field, the fields where I actually encountered it, but whatever that’s ok.

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Set your language to UK, this is like the worst design I’ve seen. I’m blessed that the UK has some sense though, 24 > 12.

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If you’re on a windows machine you can also open control panel → Clock and Region → ā€œChange date, time or number formatsā€ → ā€œAdditional settingsā€¦ā€ → ā€œtimeā€ tap at the top.
Then change short and long time to the following.
Short time: HH.mm
Long time: HH.mm.ss

Additionally you can change the dot ā€œ.ā€ to a colon ā€œ:ā€ (HH:mm) or forego the dot/colon for proper ā€œmilitary timeā€ (HHmm)

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Ya, the 24 hour clock is a good option and makes more sense

This is likely due to Militaries around the world using this time format while in many areas the general populace uses the twelve hour format. and while science and medical will use the 24 hour format as well they aren’t as high profile on the general populaces list of interesting things as militaries are.

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Yeah that makes sense, in the medical field it makes sense to translate, lets say a surgery appointment, into time most people can understand.

This is a petty complaint, and has nothing to do with how the military uses this time system, but I just get irked when in some action movie they use this military time to sound cool, and it is very much used in other circumstances. Again, it is a silly grief, but sometimes I do these silly things.

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Have you never seen a digital clock? Isn’t it more practical when it does not have to display extra two characters/letters? Your freedom units and short date formats are also nonsensical.

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Nothing wrong with having both. I find the imperial system is better for measuring day-to-day things, while the metric system is better for things that you actually have to math out. I wouldn’t measure my height in meters, and I wouldn’t measure my deck in feet.

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Your deck.
:smiley:
Anyway, it’s extremely habitual. I couldn’t imagine measuring in anything but meters - or centimeters. Without a converter I don’t know what 5’9" is, or what is x in 5’x" = 6’0".

The main gripes with imperial are the absolute horrendous coefficients (how many inches are one foot, how many feet are one yard, even though now I see it’s 12 and 3, but why, also 1 unspecified mile = 1760 yards), and more importantly, my favorite measures: miles and gallons. I’ve read that 1 imperial gallon - tax - profit = 1 US gallon, but it’s still funny. And the nautical, imperial mile, long ton, short ton, imperial ton, metric ton… Come on! Baker’s dozen ain’t a dozen.

Again - if you grow up with it, I guess it’s sensible, just like we’re used to 2x12 hours, 60 minutes, seconds… Although I could be curious about your the US version of g, mine is 9.81 m/s2. :slight_smile:

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The scientific community does use metric, so the US version is the same.

Where things get really weird is in the grocery store. I can have a liter of soda, a gallon of milk, 750 mL of bourbon, and 6 12 oz cans of beer in the same shopping cart!

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For the record this was going to change but one of the presidents in the US decided to withdraw it out for some reason.

This is what erks me. In the metric context this would be like:

1 liter of water
2 liters of milk
330ml (third of a liter) of beer

And you can tell much just from reading it when it comes to quantity.

Also gets weird in pharmacy, Dr.s write a cream or ointment in grams, but the manufactures make our American containers in oz. An oz is about 28.4 grams and a normal months supply for certain creams are written for 30 grams. So yeah we have to figure that out.

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Ronald Reagan looks to have tried to get a rid of it but George H.W Bush brought it back in 1991.

It is a bit irritating swapping back and forth. I prefer metric for weighing out stuff as it is more accurate, so in that spectrum I can reliably convert in my head, but length and distance is an area I struggle with as here in the states the imperial system is more pronounced with distance as well as speed.

Ammunition is just as wonky, though I find it amusing as it is usually easy to figure out where is is created by the preferred name for it. For example .50 BMG which was designed by John Moses Browning is 12.7x99mm NATO. Same goes for .308 which is 7.62x51mm NATO catridge. The famous .45 Colt that sacked many a ruffian in the American west is 11.5mm, or 11.43Ɨ33mmR if you read it up on the wiki linky.

Where it becomes problemantic is that some firearms can fire slightly weaker rounds but not the other way around with the cartridges not having the same measurement system. 5.56.x45 rifles can fire .223 Remington but is heavily discouraged to do it the other way around due to chamber pressure. 7.62.51mm and .308 Winchester are similar, but not identical, as well, which occasionally throws me for a loop even despite not being issue as far as I am aware of. Usually whenever I eyeball an HK G3 clone.

Wrench sockets are just as annoying.