I am trying to learn how to play Medivh and as I am not part of the few chosen ones able to master this hero I have a terrible win rate with him. (In QM)
So knowing that this is a very difficult hero to play, I was wondering if the hero once mastered was rewarding or if overall appart from niche situations he is not performing well.
I am far to be a master player and I guess his value will be higher in the upper leagues but it looks like he is low performing regarding the difficulty needed to play him.
But once or 2 times I faced one of those chosen ones who was a real pain in the @ and made his team win.
Hi! My most played and highest lvled Hero is Medivh.
My skill lvl is around Masters.
I want to start with, that Medivh is balanced atm, and doesn’t need buffs.
But I also want to show you how he performs:
In Masters SL he has 52% wr (2% pop).
In high mmr QM he has 48% wr (less than 1% pop).
QM is not really for Medivh.
His niche is burst counter and team enabling.
His weakness is PvE.
Now in QM, teams are uncoordinated, dmg is more likely about sustain and PvE is really important.
Especially since Abathur is really commonly paired against him (since both are Supports) and Aba does better regarding PvE, has better sustained support (actually inconditional healing) and has a global pressence.
So in QM, you probably will have a low winrate as Medivh.
Unless you form a team.
Having a Healer (which also means you might not face Abathur to begin with) and a Tank is really helpful for Medivh.
Having ppl who for guaranteed will use your Portals also important.
It’s not impossible to carry as Medivh in solo-QM, sometimes I could pull it off. It’s also common that ppl compliment me.
But imo, Medivh is most rewarding with standard team comp models, where you don’t need to be worried about PvE and get easily stack.
Once you’re in such comps, Medivh is really rewarding.
But in QM, you can always feel useless, even if you top dmg.
Tldr: The Hero is rewarding, but you need a team or draft for that. Otherwise you probably won’t have a nice winrate with him.
(Disclaimer: no need for a 5men team.)
He’s actually not that difficult of a hero to play. Players just do not understand what skills they need to develop.
Open try mode, turn off cooldowns and solo the boss by jumping between portals using only Q and autos. No W allowed. Alternatively, open portal into enemy fort, go through it and out without using W and without getting hit by any tower shots. This one you should do in sandbox mode so you have ping because it’s too easy in Try mode.
That’s it. It is the only mechanical skill you need to grind. Q is nothing special, even Orphea’s Q is more challenging. W also is nothing special, just a matter of patience. There is no mind game to it as so many claim. That is a perception of those who do not wait for enemy opportunities to arise.
The rest is game knowledge. You must know all CCs and CC related talents and be familiar with typical behavior, spell rotation and threat level of all heroes. If you choose to absorb such knowledge passively, it can take hundreds of games. But if you read hero kits and talents and feel them in Try Mode, it can take just a week or two.
He is very playable even in quickmatch. The more blind to portals are your teammates, the more clueless the enemies are about how to play against Medivh. They will typically allow you to do tons of damage to them that better players would not. So it balances out. When E is useless for teammates, Q is extra effective for enemies.
edit: and yes, the payoff is worth it. Ironically, he is least fun when your allies can all take portals because then your enemies won’t let you get away with the things potatoes let you do to them.
I love Medivh and yet I have a terrible WR with him, exactly due to what Karabars correctly stated. QM is a very very tough environment for Medivh due to the lack of coordination, the lack of knowledge of the enemy team comp and how it will all fair in battle.
Since I mostly played Medvih on QM, it put my WR into pathetic levels simply because it was hard to get value with him in those type of chaotic scenarios. I got some good ones here and there but the majority were bad experiences since no one takes portals and everyone is doing their own thing most of the times.
Medivh is an amazing character in decently coordinated teams and even without that, if your random teammates KNOW how to use Medivh best assets, you can be a crucial player in the game.
I have a question about Medivh, but didnt feel comfortable making my own thread. I think this thread is a good one to post in? Its about playing Medivh in any case. My question is this: if I take portal mastery talent at level 1, can the enemy team see my partial portals? What I mean is, you make a first potential portal, and can later link it. The potential portal looks sort of like a leyline seal. Is that marker visible to enemies? It would be very useful to know, but I haven’t been able to figure out how to check it. Thanks for the help!
Thank you Karabars. I would put it down as a safe zone so I can help allies escape unexpectedly, and it didn’t seem like it usually worked. So I was suspicious, but thought maybe Im just too slow when I use it.
That is inacccurate. Half portals are invisible to the enemy. You can verify it with a friend. A light way to convince yourself is to imagine in your mind what a friendly half portal looks like. Then imagine an enemy one. Unless you watch replays or a lot of pro games you will draw a blank. You will have to stop and infer that it must be red because you have never seen it.
Relatively speaking, yes he is. I find him super fun, and he is viable, but saying something like this is highly misleading. He’s one of the harder heroes to play in HOTS. I mean the fact you say you have to know all CCs and and CC related talents kinda shows that.
His Q isn’t hard to aim, but the fact that if you do misfire, it punishes you with a longer CD. So, the more you aim correctly, the more you have to keep aiming. Take Azmodan who has a big fat circle that you only have to fire on a much longer CD.
Timing of Ws is about patience, but that’s also why it’s not easy like healing. You don’t time it right, you just have a wasted CD. If shields were really that easy, everybody would be playing Zarya, or Shield Tassadar would have been super popular. They were effective for those who could play it, but it is harder to pick up.
Portals require multiple clicks and spacial awareness. So you have to be fast and relatively accurate to have the best impact.