Two matches in a raw heroesprofile:55311222 and heroesprofile:55311323
This can won only if the second team is afk.
Where do i find these matches in heroesprofile?
I canât seem to find whwre to search for those numbers.
its the match id, so you can add it to the url: https://www.heroesprofile.com/Match/Single/
eg. https://www.heroesprofile.com/Match/Single/55311222
Zeebo, Medivh, Valeera, Muradin, Brightwing (OP)
vs Anub, Fals, DW, Jo, Tyrande on Cursed Hallow.
Valeera is generally a liability in Qm, and DW can stall for days on cursed hallow.
That doesnât mean OPâs side canât win, but it does mean they need to coordinate their strengths and have some sort of battle plan instead of everyone just doing whatever.
Falstad took W quest at 1, so heâs shooting himself in the foot as the âmainâ backline dps since cc would generally be the most effective on him, and trying to get stacks exposes him. However, HP stats indicate he did get damage, so whatever plan they had didnât involve exploiting that weakness.
Zeebo is arguably a decent offset to deathwing with his zombi wall, even if dw is just playing to stall. OPâs side only has â1 tankâ so usual QM complaints see any deviation as some sort of flaw of QM, and they have no idea how to win. With two frontliners vs one, that typically regulates the solo tank to playing defensive and focusing on peeling where the double frontline can try to cc focus a single hero, esp with tyrande mark.
However, âbodyguardâ peel can work for valeera, so OPâs side could play the defensive instead of trying to dive in on tyrande, esp since they have a medivh that could shield to block some of the cc focus damage and they play long game to get nazeebo stacked.
However, since typical valeeraâs are going to try to dive, dive dive, she probably forces everyoneâs hands on bad engages and it makes the game seem âunwinnableâ when people donât convey their build intents on how theyâre going to offset the enemy team strategy.
https://www.heroesprofile.com/Match/Single/55311323
Second game:
Yrel, Valeera, Zeebo, Jaina, BW (OP)
vs Hammer, Li Li, DW, Chromie, Illidan on Cursed Shrines.
Red team has 3 distant siege and a hero that can solo objective while Blue side only have 2 and lack a good duelist in case of solo shrines if red ignores objective to push.
Val, Yrel, and Jaina are in a party, but thatâs not a typical wombo, so theyâre probably a collective liability.
Spiders are free realestate in this match, and zeebo took that, but thatâs not going to offset whatever it is jaina or valeera had in mind.
OPâs lastest matches all use the same BW build, so that generally suggests they arenât the most adaptive of players, hence the need to complain about matching and assume they canât win instead of having some sort of battle plan to suit what theyâre actually facing.
Otherwise, their games with frontline, healer, and backline dps, so thereâs not really much else QM is going to do for them and itâs on the player to make the match a better experience by learning to adapt and use what strengths they have instead of crying over what they donât.
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So if i acces the first link you posted it lead me to the heroesprofile main page and if i copy the number in the âenter the battletagâ tab then i get the ''no battletag found"
Itâs strange because i donât see any find match options on the top tabs of the site.
But with the second link you provided, the one with the numbers it worked and i could see the teams.
So thank you again, you have a nice soul.
I have to disagree with you on some things though.
I think Valeera is very good, maybe a little too good in QM and indeed a liability in SL or coordinated environments.
Falstadâs Lightning Rod build works quite well in QM, and i think stuns do not interrupt the Rodâs strikes.I donât know if silence does but i guess it does.
And Naz is strong with his toads build against a melee heavy team.Those 5 toads(when completed) do crazy damage to melee.
I think is was pretty doable for the first team to win considering that BW aoe healing should produce higher numbers then Tyrande.
And in the second match i think it was the first team who had actually the advantage.They had spiders against low mobility Hammer and DW.You put a zombie wall on Hammer, then throw a spider jar and Jaina a Blizzar and i think Hammers dies.You can hit DW fairly easy with sipders and walls.
When Ilidan dives you can Poly him with Bw, then slow him with Jaina and then blind him with Valeera. And Valeera it is also good against a squishiy mage like Chromie.
So, in my opinion the first team had all the tools to win the game.
DW, + Tyrande + Q build flastad +Johanna is a nightmare to try and channel on this map. It can last forever. Anub beetles are annoying too 
Though Medhiv can also stall forever, and makes up a bit for Valeeraâs lack of disengage.
Unless the Nazeebo spends every objective killing minions cuz stax 
Iâm guessing that was mostly for valeera since it follows her if she cloaks. THough Falstad needs to still be alive
Dude, weâre talking about QM. NEVER going to happen.
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Battletag is player ID for looking at profiles, Match ID is for looking for replays. HP doesnât have a search function for looking for replays, youâd get to replay from other areas and then have to copy/paste the match ID that way.
heroesprofile.com/Match/
compared to
heroesprofile.com/Player/
If i acces the first link i get the following:
âYou got lostâ
âClick portal to go homeâ
Unfortunately i canât seem to be able to upload an imagine so you can see this error.
yea, I didnât post a âcompleteâ link, I posted examples to point out the difference of where the website is going. Backslashes / indicate directory changes on websites â were information is found â so the first set of backslashes around /match/ indicate thatâs going to replays while /player/ indicates profiles.
As another example, this forum has directory tags around /en/ to indicate âenglishâ instead of forums for other regions. It then has backslashes around /heroes/ instead of being âd4â or âwowâ or âhearthstoneâ for other games in the same website.
Aha, i thought that the first link will take me to a page where there is a bar with a search options where i could introduce the numbers the OP provided.
So if i understand this correctly, i have to introduce the numbers after the Match backslash in my browser address bar?
Iâm the first to complain about comp reliant nature of the game butâŚ
The first match was autolose because the Valeera was doing nothing, I didnât keep watching after 8 minute or so, but blue team didnât âdeserveâto win.
Every TF was at the expense of leave DW push alone, which is a solid gameplan because you gonna get outpushed in a normal laning game anyway, but Valeera going around and wasting solid 3-4 seconds to engage while blue team lose the fake 4v3 or 5v4, instead of use the numerical advantage was painful to watch. So while I get that they were tanky and blah blah blah, it means nothing if the team doesnât TF (the valeera in this case) when the kill window is avaliable.
This wasnât even a thing of map awareness, she was there in every TF but she went around bushes to the backline. Probably she was expecting you to win the 3v3/4v4 and then she could just finish then while they retreat,(yeah, againts 2 tanks lol) but this never happened and she kept the same pattern in every TF.
Second match is more close to the QM nature, so you get outpushed because comp.
In this case I will argue that blue team healer was âdoing rightâ but forgot that she needs team anyway. So getting camp in the first seconds of objetive and the team getting killed in the process is the start of a rough game.
In the last obj the 50% jaina trying to kill a full health DW (and dying of course), instead of clear the wave and defend, she settled the game. Before that engage you can tell there was a solid chance of blue team to win obj and try some push while the not dead Jaina defend the other lanes, so from red team POV Deathwing recover that lost objetive, therefore was a deserved win.
Note that I didnât say anything about micro, this isnât a judgment of gameplay, the point is that blue team made bad choices and donât deserve to win, even if red team has better comp. I would even argue that bad choices with coordination are better than messy ârightâ choices.
Maybe that Valeera is a master of killing retreating squishy targets when her team wins TFs, so itâs a good thing that didnât happen so she can try to TF when there is not other option.
Maybe the Jaina is the bomb diving into the enemy and landing her stuff but in this match the result was a 7 death counter and throwing the last advantageous moment from his team.