Make Zagara's Infest talent a quest

It’s an active effect that needs to be stacked. And there’s never a time to not have it on. And if the point is to do a thing (increase your siege damage) for a set reward (increasing ranged minion damage), then it only makes sense that it’s a quest instead of something to be manually toggled.

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This is a thing i learned from someone on the forums but he used anubarak’s level 1 which auto spawns better instead.

You would turn both of these on if you are planning to gank the enemy hiding in a bush, since the enemy can see if the siege is buffed by zagara, so there is a reason to turn it off, now that i think about it there should be a way to turn off xul’s trait

Thing is that activating the spell reveals your presence to the enemy even if you are hidden, because of the graphical effect it has on the minions, similar as to how mercenary lord/queen has on mercs, so taking that in mind it is fine that it has a toggle.

However It’s not a particularly useful talent when you compare it to the instant waveclear provided by banelings, which is futher fueled by lvl 1 and 7 talents, including the cooldown reduction from Nydus.

Even the roach lvl 1 talent is superior as it will force towers to prioritise your summons over a minion wave. Talented roaches can soak 4 shots at least and with CRD from Nydus you can maintain permanent roaches (with 1-2 sec overlap on extra summons) basically turning a Zagara into Sylvanas that allows her to mow down forts.

Infest will only come into play at 25+ minutes when catapults start doing insane damage, allowing you to backdoor an unsuspecting enemy. It’s not a particularly useful talent but making it baseline would be a slight overkill.

Sacrificing some siege potential in favor of team fighting power would make Zagara a much better hero. Currently her play style is all about your team understanding they are most useful creating distractions while she teleports across map and pressures the enemy on all sides.

True. It’s nice to have the toggle for those situations. But realistically, how often does a Zagara participate in ganks. I’ve yet to see an instance in ~5 years. Her abilities are a bit slow for one person isolation ganks. Anub’arak on the other hand does it all the time.

Alternative uses could be hiding her presence while doing a camp, say on the bottom lane of Infernal Shrines. Minions might occassionally spill down very near her, and having the Infest active would reveal she is nearby.

That’s how old Infest worked. You could massive buff catapults but now it only work on range minions in your minion waves.

So basically it is even more useless considering you can lob banelings from across the screen while infest requires you to stand in the vicinity of your minions.

Yep