Make it so ai prioritizes winning the game plz

anon95230805 · March 7, 2020, 7:24pm

I just had a game where the only player left on our team was a bot anub’arak, and instead of defending core, it walked around in circles on the other side of the map. Never even attempted to hearth.

Why is the AI this bad? When core is dying = hearth and defend. Don’t pretend like that would be heard to program in. The year is 20 freaking 20 and everyone used to expect better from one of the biggest AAA gaming companies on the planet.

Sidernar-1235 · March 7, 2020, 7:57pm

pretty sure no one expects (or should anyway) better from a company that was bought by activision. every game is hated by all the people that liked them since the sellout.

Gazlowe-21293 · March 8, 2020, 12:44am

There was a post on top of the forum saying they dedicated an entire employee to reworking the AI. I don’t know if he is still working on the AI bots.

anon99440384 · March 8, 2020, 2:01am

that’s true i saw it yesterday it was posted a month ago that they’re working to improve the AI “yet again” so we’ll see how it goes once they finish. is it going to get better or worse as usual~

Cinderella-11778 · March 8, 2020, 2:53am

The State of Heroes of the Storm A.I

Hello, and good day to you all!

My name is Kevin Gu, and I am a Senior Designer on the Heroes team. I have been working alongside Jeff Beaudoin, our Lead Gameplay Engineer, on our game’s A.I. We wanted to take a moment to update you all on where we are and how our three major A.I. initiatives are progressing.

Reconciliation of the Goal and Tactical Systems

There are two systems under the hood of Heroes that work together to drive agent behavior: the Goal system and the Tactical system. The Goal system is responsible for determining where A.I. agents should move, while the Tactical system provides agents with awareness of their surroundings so that they use and target their abilities intelligently. Last year, in an effort to improve agent in-combat positioning, we made it possible for the Tactical system to override the Goal system. Although we believe the changes were ultimately a good iteration, they did expose several underlying issues that we are addressing.

Moving forward we will be reverting some of changes made in the last major overhaul and restructuring the Tactical A.I. behavior tree. We are reinforcing the intended separation of the Goal and Tactical systems, and will be paying closer attention to make sure that any future changes do not disturb this delicate balance of power. This will reduce the frequency of agents being pulled in two directions at once, most commonly observed as agents rapidly bouncing back and forth in place. This work will also allow us to more quickly diagnose the root cause of misbehaving agents.

Laning and Defense

Our second priority is to improve A.I. agents’ understanding of “laning” and how they approach pushing and defending those lanes. In the most recent patch, we added logic that allows the Goal system to understand that lanes pushed closer to a core are usually more valuable to defend. Our next step is to include units within each lane to further modify how valuable lanes are to defending agents. Both pieces will ensure that the A.I. will better understand how to defend their lanes.

Goal Staging

Our third priority is to improve the ability for agents to prepare or “stage” for their assigned Goals. Our internal Tactical A.I. tree can now better determine if all assigned agents to a goal have arrived. This allows agents to intuit if they should wait in shrubs because their team members are not yet near their collective objective, and subsequently helps agents work together.

Thank You

We want to extend a big thank you to those who have shared feedback on A.I. We hear you! We are hard at work improving the A.I., and plan to bring the items mentioned above and more into the next major Heroes patch. Again, thank you for your continued patience, and we’ll see you in the Nexus!

anon99440384 · March 8, 2020, 4:13am

yeah that was the one!

MadKiller-2229 · March 8, 2020, 8:09am

off topic: ( based off of the replied post)

tell you guys something, even ACTIVISION ITSELF wasent always bad. back then, they were, and i kid you not, as lifely and caring as blizzard, OG BLIZZARD! im not sure what happened after the 2000s but they had many amazing games that made my childhood too.

back to topic:

the AI is very flawed atm, heroes im new at and want to improve with using ai is just too easy. when im learning a new hero, the ai just cant do anything, and that is while using ELITE mode. we can just go all 5, and push top and win core in 90 seconds while the ai is sitting between towers waiting for the minion wave to spawn so he can push

DrSuperGood-1327 · March 8, 2020, 9:27am

Because this was the “fix” that was tried to prevent players cheesing the AI by poking core every minute with a long range hero like Chromie or Li Ming causing them to drop all pushes and objectives to “defend” the core.

It fixed it a bit too well. Now the AI ignores their core and when they are not ignoring it they are running around it like headless chickens.