Seriously, i played 12 games tonight of which thast all the time i had to play and completely did not enjoy it. Video games are to be fun correct? Honest question. I got disconnected from a match and now I am stuck 12 games deep and cant win a game. Why would you ask? Becuase no one picks a healer so 2 member leave after selecting double butcher, or a literal cancer ear rape to the point i cant turn voice chat on, or person joins doesnt like the match up and leaves, or whatever else some spoiled child with an internet connection decides. Mind you i usually win a majority of my games and they are very competitive and even if i lose it was a battle and i can gladdly give a gg. These are not competitive games. Some ending in 5 minâŚis that enjoyable for the opposing team? is that good gameplay for them. NO! f%&# NO! I have been playing this game since beta and I have several thousand hours playing it. I dont complain about the company and I dont complain about the non support from Blizzard, but I do complain about Devs forcing me to play with these people. Its literally night and day. People talk and stratagize in lobby and plan what your going to do. Instead i have to here your mom jokes or much much worse.
IMHO a SOLUTION. Same system for getting into leaver que with a certain change. If you play 3 games without leaving you can replace 1 game of leaving, however if your reported for abusive chat or afk or intentionally dying. Your games to get out of que increases. Lets be honest the people that greatly populate leaver que do not care about being in leaver que. They want to troll. Theydont want to be a team player and they dont care about their team mates. Thes player only Hurt your small player base. Let me go to their que and be who they want to be, but have a better pathway for good players to get out. Maybe even add votes and end to help move you up a Leaver que win. I just play to have fun and I cant have a competitive game or even get to a competitive game like this.
You should get better internet because you donât get placed in leaverâs queue for dcing one or two matches.
If I get disconnected, Iâm not placed in leaverâs queue but if I leave like 3 games in a short period of time, I have to win 3 games in leaver queue to get out.
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Ppl donât get into leaver queue if all they do is getting a mild dc once in a blue moon.
Ppl can also party up and defeat the trolls.
Leaver queue exists to separate the rotten apples from the normal ones.
Implementing a system where you donât need to win to get out was the og idea iirc, it doesnât really work, ppl need to try their best (thus win around 50% the time hypothetically) to get out.
Now a system where reports have power would be abused by the selfproven trolls, and it would be even hard to implement (with no one to implement it).
If the playerbase is shrinking and leaver queue has less and less innocents, thatâs an issue, but as I said, party up. This is an existing ingame easy fix, no need to try with some ducktape solutions like enabling some lucky unreported troll to escape leaverâs because they werenât afk (but maybe trolled or fed).
The current system is imo fine.
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Thereâs about a dozen motivations for games in current theory/design.
- Relaxation, or âmindlessâ activity
- Competition (against others)
- Overcoming challenges or Solving puzzles or taking ârisksâ
- Exploration/Discovery
- Building, growing, or collecting
- Evoking emotion
- Learning, training, or improving
- Social experiences
- Escapism, roleplay, story
- Compensation
âFunâ is hard to quantify, so it tends to be of avoiding âanti-funâ instead. While people will say they do something for âfunâ, theyâre better at describing what they donât like, rather than what they do enjoy, especially if theyâre not directly chronicling their experiences.
Each of the above items also has some dualities to the component: some people enjoy consistent rules or structure to what theyâre doing, and others want less of it, or they want rules in one genre, and without in a different one; similarly for social experiences or âachievementsâ and social or anti-social components.
DotA-like games are terrible in the fun/time/reward area, so itâs usually some other qualities that keep people going and fueling their sunk-cost habit.
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He just said 12 matches without a win, which sounds like a single leaver - which is after two âsituationsâ.
That kind of bad luck happens unfortunately, once I went on a 15 loss streak with Valla. Another time dropped from Gold all the way to Silver 5 with a 16 loss streak. The latter was a three day event.
Since even in a Troll vs Troll setup, there is a (stochastic) 50% win chance, I see no harm in having a quest to beat: Win X matches, Play Y matches (typically x3), Score MVP, End up on MVP screen (proxy for performance), something like that. First one gets you out.
The entire salt mines is about the same root cause - our influence on the match result is so tiny!
If ARAM is not working for you, you can try QM instead. No double butcher picks there.
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Honestly are many of these comments constructive. Why not change the game for the better? I dont even know if i have ever posted in these forums and most of not all comments are negative and the problem is with you not the game. Why cant the game get better? Why cant we imporve a flawed system. I mean the comment just get better internet is zero helpful. There was an outage that did cause 2 disconnects, but after it was fixed I went back to pay 12 games with ZERO DISCONNECTS and not one was even a close competitive experience. I never want to play another game in leaver que, but i dont get a choice. Its either uninstall or deal with a majorly flawed system. 3 games without leaving and you should be out of the que. It used to be just play a game without leaving, but i would also add that if you get reported then you dont progress out of leaver que. so you have to play the game and not be a dick. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT??? I swear when i get on some of these forums its like i am taking crazy pills talking to some of you fanboys. The game CAN have problems AND STILL be a GOOD GAME!. ugh sometimes I dont know why I even postâŚthanks for the confirmation of the quality of this forum. Hey i did give you the chance to be goodâŚ
The better for who? The trolls who consistently leave matches, and will no longer have to actually try to win games to get back to trolling? I am not saying you do this, but your proposed change will definitely enable people who did this constantly prior to the change to requiring wins.
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Did you even read the whole post? Answer, NO. They would have to play 3 games or more even and not leave and also not get reported or banned. This means they played 3 or more games as a normal player to only play 1 game as a troll and end up back into leaver que but this time with 2 wins stipulation and it requiring 6 or more games of them playing normally to play 1 game again of trolling. See its a much better concept
They werenât playing it as a normal player. They would afk in base, moving the minimum required to not leave, or just feed aggressively to get the game over with as soon as possible. 3 games of that and they are back in regular queue?
No thanks.
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From what I read people were actually trying to explain things to you but you just want to be angry and throw salt everywhere.
You deserve the leaver queue youâre in.
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trolling is an activity within the listed methods.
ie troll as âmindless activityâ, exploration (see what you can get away with), evoking emotional experiences, socializing, role play, etc etc
Watch out for the paid trolls that can making a living from it 
that would make leaver queue effectively impossible to leave. If this change occurred, people would report just to add to the tally.
Bad solution and here is why. People will just afk in base until game is over. I saw this before when the punishment was just play 3 games. You would see your entire team afk in base or they would instant leave the match forcing you to play with bots.
If a punishment dont do anything then this is what you get. Forcing you to win the match is a harsher punishment then just afk in base for 3 games in a raw just to do the same in real games.
Winning 3 games to get out was for the better. Punishments need to be something you feel so you wont do it again.
You are completely innocrect as i said you have to play the game. Sitting afk auto kicks you from the game. The team will also report you and as I said would prevent you from getting further progress toward getting out of leaver que. I am now 28 games in leaver que. Not even close. Hell when people die a few times they just go afk. You really dont understand how bad it is. I offer you leave 2 games and get then as well just have to win 1 game and come back here and let us all know how it is. You simple are ignorant and I understand that.
Then youâll understand how other players felt when you went afk.
And donât give me that excuse about your internet connection. The game canât distinguish the difference. It wasnât the other playersâ fault that they had to play the game with an afk. It wasnât Blizzâs fault either. It was yours. You can shift the blame to your internet company or whoever, itâs not other playersâ nor Blizzâs burden to bear.
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Leaver queue displeased you?, whatâs about encouraged mini break then?
Any afker/leaver/troll/intentionally feeder, once detected in a match will be granted a mini break from the game for 20 mins for their sake, to fix their internet/reflect on themselves/go w/c/ grab some bite/ etc.
Then theyâre allow to log in again. what if previous behavior still persist?, of course theyâll be granted another break immediately, and if 2nd break is too short and the 3rd happens? they get an hour instead of 20 mins, plus add their user name to a special hidden list to the system in case thereâs a 4th time, then a day break for them.
After a day break, theyâll allowed to have only one 20 mins break penalty coz if thereâs 2nd time in that day, then theyâll get another day break immediately.
1 day break can happen 3 times only, after that it seems they still need to rest more, so a week break will be given for them.
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Please send me the crazy pills your taking⌠I too would like to live in a fantasy land that i create.
Nothing to do about being arrogant cause thats my experince of how people was when it was like that 5 years ago. People who ended in leaver que would just afk in base until enemy team killed your core.
That is not punishment. That is telling trolls they can troll all they want and only get a little slap on the shoulder as punishment when they do it.
Forcing you to win 3 games force both teams to actually play the game as they was intended to do in normal games aswell.
And this post just proves you not here to seek help but to blame everyone who dont tell you what you want to hear.
Also you dont get throwed into leaver que just by dc one game. You most likely dc alot of games or left those out of rage and now blame the company for throwing you into something you could have prevented yourself by actually getting internet fixed first.
Game works as intended whatever you like it or not.
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