Im glad i stopped playing ranked. I love the game, but i hate how this game is run, and the lack of communication. Its as if these people take no pride in what they do.
I think he’s concerned that some people will just play ranked badly to get the rewards. I don’t really think it’s a worry now, people do that anyway. If end of season rewards encourage more people to queue up or give rank a try all the better.
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Well it can go both ways.
There are people ruinning 10 matches to get a reward but there also are people who do not like ranked that much coming for just 10 games with less stress and not performing that badly.
On the other hand people who do more ranked games admit not having done the 50 winning games because it seemed to overbearing.
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While I don’t disagree with this, encouraging people to “win 50 games for rewards,” telling people you’ll communicate rewards later (which isn’t strange for the HOTS team. We’ve had lots of Ranked Seasons where rewards were communicated late or AFTER a season ended), and then NOT communicating OR offering meaningful rewards is where my frustrations are.
If ranked should be it’s own reward, that’s fine. But they should say that. I also don’t know why development time was spent on a “Seasonal Quest system” for ranked, if meaningful rewards wouldn’t be tied to it.
If you’ve been here for a while, you can see why HOTS players would believe ranked Season 3 2019 rewards would be different than they were.
I’d like to believe that also, but there are posts like this from HOTS QA: Seasonal quest rewards - win 50 games - #2 by Huginncord
Yes, I hope the HOTS team reconsiders what they’re going to do here. Mostly, I’m frustrated by the lack of communication on this topic during and after the season, and what seems like a lack of consideration for their most highly engaged players.
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HotS have a rep for all things ranked and what direction it heads in. If you haven’t caught on yet, you will soon enough.
Your reasoning is fine, and there’s nothing wrong with that. It also would not have been such a huge problem if Blizzard were transparent about it. After completing the four stages of the seasonal quest, there was an indicator that YOU QUALIFY FOR END OF SEASON REWARDS ~
except in previous seasons you played 10 placement matches and got a reward, where as this time around, with average luck this would turn into a requirement of 100 games played. Are we crazy to have assumed the reward would be appropriate for the time invested?
Once you account for how much time that actually is, especially on lower populated servers, where you have to sit through queues, risk losing time over disconnects and draft cancellation. Factor in everything else like throwers, trolls and rude people. It just takes a toll.
Myself, I play a lot, and have a lot of spare time, still played less than 300 total games this whole season. Include a big number of AI games and brawls that last drastically shorter than an average ranked game, without accounting for queue and draft time.
Are you closer to understanding the disappointment of an average player that had drastically less time to play, or is unlucky enough not to live in US or EU?
What do you think will happen to ranked queues after this?
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Totally agree, last time you played 10 games and got a unique mount. In Australia it’s hard to get ranked games. The 50 wins was tough but got it at around 85 games. I enjoyed it and was looking forward to getting something decent for completing that mile stone.
A lot of my mates couldn’t get it at the hours we play, I guess now jokes on me for trying. I enjoyed it though went up a rank this time but stopped playing it mostly because I was 1 loss away from going down a rank. Now I might just play for fun in off hours but won’t really feel that drive anymore so won’t play anywhere as much.
This to me was such a disappointment that I probably won’t try for next season… knowing my luck they will change it and give a mount. If they do that I hope they reward the people that did it this season if they don’t get it next season… Or at least mention what the rewards will be earlier.
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Which means you declare yourself a “higher level players”. How cute.
Also, if you had been actually a “higher level players”, then yes, you would have received more gold and loot boxes. And looking at that 38 wins for a whole season. Yeah, it’s clear how much of a “higher level players” you are.
Yikes, wishing for the game to fail because you believed you’re entitled to something.
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They runs out of ideas for ranked reward. All the animal and dinosaur kingdom are already available in the shop.
You will have to buy or roll them in chest with your hard earned gold.
honestly i’m glad that it requires you to “win” to get rewarded so people can’t mess around if they really wanted the rewards and that’s all they played for in ranked. but in same time i don’t like the fact i won 50 games and got rewarded with “gold” and a “portrait” but no mount
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only played for the mounts. no mounts = no reason to play ranked
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i didnt read any infos of this official. You always has to GOOGLE for such infos. WHY??? I am sorry to say, but you are not even trying to save this game…!!!
Doesn’t look like they’re even going to acknowledge this.
This was the 3rd highest upvoted question for the Reddit AMA today… and they just skipped right over it.
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Not surprised at all.
So disappointing to not get any feedback. Just screams they are running extremely low on development resources.
I saw an idea voiced I believe in that reddit AMA that was an interesting idea.
You get a type of currency depending on where you place at the end of the season, that currency can go towards buying unique “ranked” rewards.
Good players get their stuff sooner but those who dabble will eventually get the things they want.
Obviously this could be adjusted. I’m not against rewards but anything that encourages people to play ranked without taking it at least somewhat seriously really needs to be discouraged.
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I don’t know if it’s a lack of resources per se. It may be a small team, but development is happening. We continue to get updates, characters, skins, and… things like “Nexus Anomalies.”
My concern is how development is prioritized, and how changes are communicated. It feels like there’s a lack of a plan. If that’s true, I’d ask the HOTS dev team to focus on the why they’re spending their time on one feature over another, and the how they should be communicating with players. If there actually is a plan it just doesn’t feel like it, because there are very few things being communicated proactively and clearly to players.
Let’s use 2019 Ranked Season 3 as the example (since that’s the topic of the thread). Development was spent on an updated “Ranked Seasonal Quest” system. Encouraging players to play (and actually try to win) ranked games is probably a move in the right direction for the health of ranked play. We got one article on this with plenty of lead time, with the promise to share more information on ranked. Then… they just went silent on this.
Since the rewards for ranked were intentional, as was verified by QA here, the problem is the team didn’t try to proactively communicate any of this or make any attempt to explain the “why.” WHY spend development time to build a new structure for ranked and qualify for ranked rewards, if you weren’t going to use that system to deliver something meaningful to players? It feels like there’s a significant lack of planning, or understanding of what matters to players.
Since it seems that rewards for ranked were an intentional plan, I’d like to compare this to previous Brawl rewards. We used to get 1000 gold and a portrait for playing 3 Brawl matches in a week. I know this got reworked around the launch HOTS 2.0, but offering a portrait and 2000 gold as a reward for playing approximately 100 matches over 4 months feels like a mistake. Choosing to move forward with this reward structure shows a gross misunderstanding of what rewards would be meaningful incentives to retain players, and a real lack of care for your player base, since “updated” rewards weren’t communicated anywhere during the ranked season, before players spent at minimum 50 hours participating in 2019 Ranked Season 3.
I understand that development priorities can shift and change over the course of months, and that’s why I want to emphasize that this seems to be a COMMUNICATION ISSUE, and an issue where the HOTS development team seems disconnected from players.
Rewards should remain consistent during the period of time that players are working towards things. If you’re making significant changes to the ways that players come to your game, and participate as they work towards rewards, someone should tell players.
On the other side, I don’t think the development team is getting good communication FROM players. If they were, I don’t believe we’d have this disconnect between understanding what’s meaningful to players, and the prioritization of development building things that are meaningful to players.
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why i didn’t get 2020 portrait? i guess they don’t give a mount but why no portrait? some of my friends got the portrait, but i couldn’t get. my rank Plat
Good point. Totally agree I would like better communication. For me I mentioned that it feels like they are running low on resources because we didn’t get a mount for ranked (Which has happened for as long as I have been playing). It seems to me they are giving out much less stuff and trying to use things they already have more efficiently.
For example the spectral crab mount that was given at blizcon this year. It seems like this was meant to be the next reward for purchasing gems but they didn’t have time to make something unique for blizcon. Normally you would get a robot animal or something like that.
Then for ranked we would get some form of mount for these. Even if it’s just a reskin. So I am wondering if they are running out of pre-done skins etcs prior to the great HOTS developer purge. Or they might have spent longer designing deathwing and couldn’t reskins some mounts etc.
Did you win 50 ranked matches? It was not enough to just do placement games this season.