kel’thuzad needs to be upgraded. Now the situation with him kinda like this: he is already a very difficult hero, I have 8 buttons at level 20, I need to hit more accurately than Nova, and monitor my health for more murky. With all this, even when all combos are performed, the damage from all abilities is rather small. It looks impressive, but after all this, you will be lucky if you take away at least half of health, if u catched them, ofc. Despite the fact that it is almost impossible to catch squishies, and the kelthuzad itself dies like a fly from them. I don’t understand that plan, he’s not even suitable now to get fun. It is necessary for the damage to increase by at least 15%, or even all 20. Despite all this, I still manage to make 5 winning games in a row on it, but of course this is no good, it is very difficult to play, there is little damage. It’s a really great hero with so interesting hard skills, but we have Hogger meta now, a dog from the glades. What do u thing about this?
I mean, in the hands of a skilled player, ktz is rather strong. I’ve seen ktz players wipe the floor with squishies. the skill level with him is stark though. you either land combo’s or you don’t with him. if you land consistent combo’s, you can easily top the damage charts and get consistent kills.
54% wr in Masters (last 3 patch). @Op winning 5 games in a row as him. Blatant misinformation (like low dmg or being unable to get squishies). Yea, I don’t think Kt(z) needs buffs.
I lost all my 2 QM games without a tank and I think he definitely needs a buff. Blizz plz fix.
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Personally, his difficulty is part of what I like about him. I will say tho that having to stack that quest in order to do anything is a bit lame. Like, I understand why its there and he defiantly does need something to reign his power in but sometimes you get to 10 before you finish your quest because noone wants to fight you and that sucks.
I mean sure I’ll accept no ktz buffs but I wouldn’t mind if ktz got buffed. Just like probius and medivh you’ll get people on two sides of the op vs up spectrum
Note that even though kelthuzads abilities only scale at 2.5%. the 75% spell power effectively compensates for this more than enough. At level 20, this boost still effectively results in a net +35% damage (2.1x vs 2.8x).
But KTZ is a hero that is generaly ment to bring games to a victory state, or major advantage state before 20. This is why your blight quest is that important to finish early. Its not ment as a very late game hero, even though at level 30, that 75% spell power is still enough to compensate the 2.5% scaling. (it then however gets reduced to something like +15% net bonus)
But if you reach level 25+ as KTZ, you probably failed at using him, or your team is just not capable of doing anything and you are the main reason of having such stalled game (you would have lost anyway).
HIs skill cap is very high so its expeted that you have a hard time with him. But asking for buffs for a hero that can already 100-0 half the roaster and tanks with 50% hp.
Time to pick spell shield againts him. Oh wait people dont even pick that talent.
Ktz is the best mage in the game. very hard to play very high skill cap, supreme reward if played good.
buff to him should not even be joked about…
Low damage? KTZ is perhaps the only hero who can 100-0 almost everything but tanks every 10 seconds. (sometimes even 2 at once).
Which is fine as it’s super hard hero. You miss your combo and you have useless KTZ. High risk high reward. It feels damn good to have a good KTZ on team, and painful having bad one.
Weighing the skill and reward when his quest is fully complete, he seems appropriately tuned and balanced, at least from my point of view. Would a slight rework of his quest make him too powerful early game? It’s hard to tell without knowing what the average completion times are (minute, level) and even harder to predict the effects of a more linear spell power increase.
I mean it is somewhat expected that you are at 30 stacks by the time you receive your ult, but depending on the draft there are times where people find it difficult to finish on time. Maybe offer an alternative where every X globes would reward one stack? The most frustrating thing about him is that he often doesn’t feel like a complete hero for a full third of the match (only made worse on big maps with big gaps between the lanes). There are also awkward situations where the enemy can choose a more passive approach to slow down the process.
KTZ is both too strong and too weak.
He should be redesigned to be a bit less all or nothing.
Just some more versatility, lower the skill floor a bit, and raise the skill ceiling Because there’s very little decision making in playing him, most of his difficulty is just about aiming, and outside of his combo he can’t really do anything useful.
Gloom is best spell shield. Though Superstition is pretty amazing too.
oh no, ktz is pretty strong already, ofc i’ve seen players that sucks at playing him but that doesnt mean he does no damage, i also have seen people good at playing him and you can get oneshoted by a single combo from him if ur not full heatlh
Yes, this is very much a case of “be careful for what you wish for”, a buffed KTZ, a nightmare.
I think KTZ already has more than enough damage. His survivability is good unless he’s against highly mobile heroes (then yeah he sucks).
He has a high skill floor and his skill ceiling is quite low. So he’s difficult to get but once you have taken him to lvl 15 (not in a match, as a hero in general levels), you should know all his combos to the core.
You can then add buttons if you want (there are other good, if not better, choices at the same talent levels).
Still, completing the quest early allows you to delete the enemy team in a teamfight, without any problem, as long as you know the combos.
If you’re only playing QM and you face teams of highly mobile heroes that’s your problem. If you pick him in SL against such teams, learn another hero?
He is a difficult hero to play but being able to play him is to litterally dominate the game. IMO, KTZ is too powerful.
If u have a team. If u have nothing but ur own dk - kt sucks
It’s almost as if this was designed to be a team game…