should be a skill shot like the mind control of sylvanas not something he attached to you by magic. also his chain range could be incredible insane long many times unavoidable, nerf it
it is a skillshot , if u hit a hero with it, it attaches n then another skillshot can pull 2 heroes together, its not a click ability as far as i know
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Yeah… it is a skillshot.
But I agree that the second chain feels quite long in many situations…
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Landing chains is extremely hard on skilled players without allied CC help as they move around so much and unpredictably.
Funny enough, his chain is a skillshot since day one.
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Yeah. It feels like despite it’s travel time that it hits based on your position when it is cast.
It is skillful, but it’s range combined with the insane burst of KTZ is extremely unfun to play against.
I can never device if I want it gone or not. As again, if Is skillful.
His numbers are insanely high if anything lands, as in actual one-shot wombo combos. But I’m glad burst mages still exist after Chromie got killed off. Orphea also got defanged because lowbie HotS players believe having to dodge - and being punished for not doing so - is toxic and Blizz bought the words of the bads. Let’s not remove all skillful play from the game.
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no its not a 100% skillshot keltuzad can put you a chain if u are close enough once u have the chain he put his ice block and that is the skills shot, what is pretty dumb because his block is static and the chain has a pretty long range
ktz chain is same like kt E , it moves in a straight line, n if it hits the hero, ,it wraps around it, but yes, minions r not effected by it, but KT’s E would stun a minion if a minion is in front,
no they arent, when ktz can put u a chain and then now its become a skillshot when he attach you to his iceblock but, there is 100% secure that he will put a chain and then put the ice block and the chain can pass through the door of ur own base no matter if u run away to ur own fort, he will attach you to his ice block and combo u and ur dead, because the chain can pass through the door…
Nope, wrong.
Both first chain and the second chain are skillshots.
They are NOT point-n-click abilities.
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yes, the chain can pass through the door, but its a skillshot,
n yes, if he has chain on u, he can pull u bak very easily by putting the glacier spike,
but my question to u is, when u see a chain wrapped around u, why dont u start moving AWAY form ktz?
theres a short range for him to erupt a spike, n he can chain u to spike only then, if ur in range,
u dnt have to stand there n keep on hitting him hoping he die before he pull u,
bcoz if he pulls u, n he is a good ktz, ur dead in the next second,
You didn’t mention ice block in the main topic is probably why everyone is saying its a skillshot in the first place.
It is a skillshot.
That’s just visuality. The initial range of the chain is the same as the seconday chain’s range, it just looks longer in certain scenarios.
From a programer perspective, it’s easy to understand. The chain is already on someone and ready to be casted. The KT casts the secondary chain, and its range determined by the exact spot it’s been casted, but if the chain is on a mobile target, which moves further away from the spot the secondary chain was casted from, the chain “elongats” visually, because it’s attached to the moving target.
So to counter the “omg so long” chains, you just need to use your mobility before the secondary cast.
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Instead of opening useless rant topic about a mechanic you don’t even know, just try out KTZ and see by yourself.
KTZ’s chains are both skillshots: the first and the second one.
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i doubt he wil try, ,he hates KTZ lol
but i do agree with the op,
the second chain isnt a skillshot only n ONLY if KTZ pulls up a spike n pulls the hero to the spike, coz then, he would just need to press E , bring mouse over to the spike, n left click,
but still, u dnt need to com hugging KTZ when he has a chain on u, run away, so he not erupt a spike n pull u n delete u, simple
Its a yet another half complete thread as a matter of fact, apparently they mentioned later on that glacial spike is now responsible for making it skillshot-less, I still don’t get why people say half the words and say all the words later in the next 5 responses to others, also I still think its a skillshot because you have you know… aim… on the spike…
While I agree that hitting the Glacial Spike is easy, that doesn’t change that it’s still a skillshot.
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Post replay or it never happened.
Chains is a skill shot. If you target a stationary target, it’s still a skill shot. It’s just easy to hit a stationary target with a skill shot.
Really, your dumb rant should be about how iceblock is cheating, not chains.
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You troll?
there is a difference between skillshots and point-n-click abilities.
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KTZ chain is skillshot. That means, you shoot it and you need to hit enemy hero with it.
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Varian’s charge, KTs Living bomb are point-n-click. You just click on the enemy and he got the damage. No need for you to aim or somehow deal with the probability of your enemy dodging the spell.