Every draft he is ban to the point were its standard to ban him no matter what. At first, I thought people didn’t really know how to deal with living bomb or just didn’t know how to play against him but to be honest, I think it’s more too it then that. People just don’t want to have to deal with him and don’t find him fun to play against.
People don’t want to have to keep trying to spread out in a team fight to prevent getting blown up and some times their so much going on on the screen you just miss it.
Pyroblast has to be The cheapest ult in the game and either it needs to be reworked or removed. The fact that I can just aim it at someone and can instant kill them with no draw back, no way to escape it, deals massive amount of damage plus area damage is just crazy. In most cases a squishy is most likely to be dead.
Kael’thas is just a hero who is unfair and unfun to play against with cheep tactics. I really hope blizzard just reworks him into a more balanced mage that is actually fair to play against and playing him well actually feels earned.
The biggest problem with kael is that he’s a cheep hero to play and not rewarding and playing against him is unfun and just feels unfair.
The kills just feel cheep and unrewarding because it takes no skill or strategy what so ever because of how he is designed.
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Can’t take the thread seriously because of this bit.
There are dozens of counters to pyroblast. If you early picked Hanzo or Malf and team took nothing to counter burst damage then that is a draft error.
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Quoted for truth. He is just really annoying.
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That is true but from my personal experience, most cases people don’t draft to counter it which is a problem. maybe you should have tried to understand that. We know their are counters for it but the Issue is, are people willing to pick the heroes to do so ? Even then pyroblast still feels too safe and cheep to use for how much damage it can actually pulls off. kael is far to safe.
Put it like this, the community is not stupid and if he is ban in every draft every single game then their has to be some kind of problem with the hero it’s self.
I respect your criticism but saying that you can’t take the post series because of that bit…is that really necessary ?
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“What you don’t like meatloaf? But we’ve been eating it every day for every meal for the last 20 years!”
This is the problem with KT. There’s just too f*cking much of him. Nerf him for the sole purpose of reducing his pick frequency.
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For me the biggest issue when I play against him is that I can’t trust my teammates to not spread his yeast infection.
People that think people ban him because he’s OP don’t understand that Kael is just annoying to play against. As far as I know, he’s one of the only heroes that relies on his enemies to deal damage.
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LOL. I think the issue with him is his design not that he deals alot of damage but he feels cheep to play and playing him with skill doesn’t feel earned, if it even takes skill that is.
takes out his crystal ball
I’ll tell you how this will go.
First, this thread will have wall of posts, something along the lines of he is fine, its l2p issue, no problem in higher ranks, blah blah. Its not really wrong thing to say btw.
Then, sooner or later, Blizzard will nerf him because of his performence/ban rate in lower ranks.
Finally the same people will complain about catering to noobs or what not.
The funny thing is, some of those people, in another threads, will complain about small playerbase. Im sure “oppressive/unfun in lower ranks” hero got nothing to do with that. #logic
For some unknown reason its less reasonable to normalize his performence across the leagues, without having to wait for them to drop LiLi on Kaelthas. You dont really have to nerf him in higher leages this way. Mkay…
Pyro is boring AF btw.
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He is ban throughout other ranks also. What they need to do with living bomb is don’t let it spread anymore but instead explode in a small area that deals a small amount of area damage. the issue with it is that it spreads to other heroes and other heroes share the same damage on top of the fact flame strike also is a monster.
gravity lapse is so damn good that its actually funny that he has this for the amount of damage he he deals and his overall design.
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Nope. He is just “ok” in higher leagues imo.
Just to be clear. I disagree he is OP, UP or unfun. I just dont want him to get LiLi’d because of lower leagues, thats all. Unfortunately it seems to be inevitable. I disagree with all of you actually lol
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because people are blind. They keep running into other people while their heroes are burning and then wonder why the healer is OOM. I don’t ban him because he’s particularly powerful, I ban him because if I don’t there’s a 50 - 50 chance my teammates will play pong with explosions and throw the game. There isn’t really anything KT has that other mages don’t do better, but there’s always that one idiot on your team who’s just waiting to hit a 5-man living bomb.
I suppose one fix would be to increase the timer on the explosion so it’s not as urgent to avoid the spread, but I doubt that would change anything in low ranks.
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Pretty sure KT isn’t OK in higher ranks. He lacks a lot of the things other mages have. He doesn’t have the burst of Jaina, he doesn’t have the CC of guldan, he doesn’t have the kill potential of li ming and so on. On top of all this he effectively lacks defensive abilities. You have mana shield and that’s pretty much it. That thing will pop in 0.2 seconds when you’re focused by a competent player.
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I would not mind bomb and pyro not being point and click and D not giving a free bomb.
But then you give mana addict baseline and you buff his damage.
Players with low attention span like OP are happy and people wanting to not play a bad mage are happy.
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Eh, “ok” fits him pretty well imo. You see him once in a while, he wins some games. Just ok, nothing else. Fact that some heroes are sometimes better doesnt mean the other one is “bad”.
But ok, lets say he is bad. Do you expect them to buff him right now? I definitely do not. If they fix his lower league issues, then sure.
I was illustrating the issue. I might be mistaken about him being unpopular/bad, though.
something like his lv16 talent as baseline? flamestrike ignites the target hit. Then they could replace W with a mana shield.
I think we both can agree he doesnt need nerfs in higher MMR, and thats enough imo. They can either “change” him or nerf him right now. (because of situation in lower leagues)
I don’t understand why people try to go by someones rank because that’s not even a true reflection of your skill. their are terrible players and good players throughout all the ranks and making the excuse of saying oh its just low tier people having problems is ignoring the problem. I’v seen terrible plat and diamond players play like bronze and silver tiers so that’s just not true.
I’v seem videos and streams of people making the same kind of mistakes in higher tiers so I honestly don’t think the tier matters. I’v played with alot of good players while I also played with bad players. theirs always gonna be bad players throughout the board.
That’s because they’re not at their rank. Honestly, the last two seasons have been really bad. I’m not sure there are any good players below master rank anymore. I basically used “rank” as shorthand for all relevant game skills.
A lot of people have quit the game or just don’t play ranked anymore that’s why. Now ranked as of right now has been full of nothing but trolls so then theirs that. no one really takes this game series anymore. I have battle net friends who played only HOTS that haven’t logged in the game for months.
Ever since blizzard cut HGC and cut the budget that’s when people started to quit and by the time blizzard started to address balance issues it was already too late.
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