Is it just me or is mfpallytime... Not the greatest player

So today I was browsing YouTube and I saw one of his videos recommended to me, a recent one he made about valeera.

I decided to watch and it was honestly kinda… Cringeworthy. If he doesn’t play valeera much I guess some of it is justifiable, but even outside of hero things he just seems to have a very poor concept of target priority and constantly misplays. The other players in his game also seem kind of clueless with the team deathmatch mid all game.

I assumed he was a high level player as he’s fairly popular, but this video makes me wonder. Is he not actually that good at hots? I honestly never watch him, but that’s definitely the impression I got from this video

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He is not good, especially on every hero.

But he was basically the first “HOTS youtuber”. Many consider him fun. I watched his every vid during “closed” stage of the game. After that, only for fun with… lol forgot the name, the salty guy.

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Most of the time when he does his A-Z stuff he is pretty bad. I mean, he’s playing EVERY hero and doing educational commentary about the abilities, etc at the same time.

Watch him play with any of the regular guys on Heroes Hearth and he’s often the best player. Not even joking. There have been a few games where he out-plays even McIntyre IMO. And that’s no easy task.

Most of his stuff is quickmatch garbo. Put him on a team of good players with coms and he’s actually quite good.

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I think that goes for pretty much anyone with half decent mechanics and game sense. Just listen to pings and you can only mess up so badly

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Who knew an A - Z lets play specifically in a QM enviroment would result in being really cringy on paper for how all over the place everyone is in the entire game.

Nobody responding to top push Anubarak that he out of all the others had to fight him, Morales rotate in such a terrible way and kill herself? Guldan nuking middle? Edit 2: And my favorite gem is watching Guldan going past 3 catapults and not clear them and let core reach like 70%.

Hmmmm. :thinking:

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Pretty much this.

He played really really well in that alliance vs horde battle last year, and those teams had diamonds/masters/GMs.

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My main issue with Pally is (was actually, I didnt watch him in ages) that his mains, his best heroes, were simply OP. Rehgod, Kerrigod and Stitchgod. These were his mains. Everything after was not really worth the time if someone wanted to actually learn something.

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Id say he is a significantly above average player with a good sense for how the game ought to be played and a lot of experience. Is he great with every hero? Of course not. Who is? Valeera happens to be one of his worst heroes. By contrast he is an excellent Stitches and Falstad. He also likes to do some joke builds like damage Uther or Lucio.

I’ve been playing along with his A-Z this year and I’ve actually learned a lot as a result despite playing for 2.5 years already.

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I used to watch the guy, and I distinctly remember him saying that he played multiple games with each of these heroes and picked the best one.

Plus he chose to do it that way. Nothing stops from recording commentary after rather than during it if that specific criticism bothers him that much. It honestly comes off as an excuse.

I personally hate when he plays Tassadar. The resurgence that happens whenever he does is hard to deal with.

Ehhhhhhhhh… In that video they were serving him kills on a silver platter and he just wasn’t taking them.

If people are counting on that video to learn valeera, they’re going to have a bad time. He was doing things that 3 seconds of thinking would tell you are bad like blinding anub instead of silencing/ambushing, engaging on targets 1v2/3 with half his health missing, and wandering around in the middle of the enemy team stealthed like he was actually invisible.

I was amazed he didn’t get punished. If I tried half of those things in my games I would be dead 3 times over

Valeera can hold a lane against anub. He was playing the lane matchup really badly though

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He has been very open about not being a good Valeera player. In a few of the videos leading up this he mentioned as much. Nobody is great with every hero and everybody is bad with some heroes, Valeera is one of the heroes he is bad with (lunara is another example so much that he just calls her deer feed)

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If you watch/ed the video he already told he’s not the brightest Valeera player. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

He legitmately starts dying inside whenever he plays Lunara and he clearly stated in that too that she doesn’t click with him, these same videos are even hilarious to watch.

Just like how none of the warriors click for me except D.Va.

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He is a platinum level player. So not horrible, but nowhere close to being great, that includes when he plays heroes he is supposedly good at.

It’s laughable to those of you who think he is good compared to pros or somehow matching him with other players that basically carry him makes him good. Does he have moments of greatness? Sure, but everyone does, they just aren’t all recorded where you can cherry pick.

His micro is just not fast and more egregiously, he has a pretty terrible macro sense and overfixation with getting experience which is pretty normal for slightly above average players which is what he is.

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Sadly this is true.
When you’re constantly playing a mode where your teammate coordination can be as volatile as bouncing a check off a very pissed landlord, you’re often strapped for areas of improvement. QM gives you no control over the heroes you’re fighting or the teammates you haven’t filled the slots with, so the only things to improve with is:

  1. Understanding your hero
    Pally definitely understands what most of the heroes he plays should be doing, it can be forgiven that he can’t play with all heroes often and can’t be expected to know offhand knowledge that you would only gain by playing as that hero often. knowledge such as who beats whom in the solo lane, what talents should I absolutely pick against this team for higher chance of success, will this playstyle work with my team and so on.

  2. Improving your own mechanical skill
    Definitely has that down, however even application of mechanical skill does not translate 100% of the skill over to other heroes. Like say, KTZ and kerrigan are combo assassins, it does not mean that they perform combos the same way.

  3. Over arching gamesense
    He definitely recognizes that camps are important, staying safe is important, not staggering is important, what stages of the game to be doing this. But again, gaps in knowledge can hinder and hamper some decisions, for example, not many people know that you can actually solo bruiser camps with fenix early in the game with some really REALLY good micro and stutter step. Minute knowledge like that can’t always be expected of people.

  4. Communication
    If he sees a problem, he tries to fix it, understandable, I’d much rather have a teammate do this over not say anything and continue to die.

Overall I’d say pally is decent, being stretched thing is not fun and constantly being out of your comfort heroes is a hard thing to do, from one flex to another, yea ik that feel bro.

You’d be surprised.

Don’t have incredibly high expectations, improve the self first and you will never be disappointed in anything.

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Pally is a high plat/low diamond player who, like many HOTS players, mostly has “mains” and doesn’t have that many heroes consistently under his belt. At the very least, he’s better than the average person posting on the forums which is nice.

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Mewn? Dat boi so salty he could kill a tardigrade.

DA CRISPY TACO!!!!

Honestly, I don’t know if I picked up on his habits from watching his videos when I first started playing this game, but it seems I’m a lot like him.
He’s hotheaded, has trouble with his click accuracy, and has a bad habit of tunnel-visioning a bit too hard, but he knows his stuff, has solid timing, and actually understands synergies and combos pretty well.
Of course, I don’t have that smooth, sexy beard, and for better or worse I’m as thin as a particularly anorexic twig…

Anyway, I’d say he makes for a great beginner’s coach, which is why most people watch his videos. If you’re new to a hero or the game, checking his videos out is a great way to get started, and they were a huge part of HotS’ early marketing. I actually started playing because I enjoyed his videos.

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Yes Mewn, damn brain.

His rage was fun, maybe not for everyone, but he was also the best from their cast.

Alot of videos he starts with: “So i have and still want to make clear, i am not the best player and do mistakes so dont point out when i miss skillshots, I KNOW I DO”

Or something like that.

Hes not the best but hes entertaining and thats all hes going for.

Edit: Also note that he is a QM player before anything else.

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The only issue I had with him it’s how he played Tassadar.

But! His videos have a big value for new players. He shows how some heroes work, different builds, etc.
His work to show how some things work - and then players continue with their own way, but it’s easier after his videos.

I learned Tassadar by myself and I watched his videos about him when I mastered him. I think I would do it earlier with his help.

So - I think he does good. He is better than most players. He plays more heroes than I do.

He’s fine.

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Pally is the HuskyStarcraft of Hots… average player, maybe mid master on his best heroes but entertaining and kinda charismatic and energetic and perfect for a casual audience.

speaking of, Husky deleted all his vids out of the blue and turned into a random douche lolmao

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