I have noticed nothing happens after ranked game anymore so im presuming it just stays there ?
I dont think you can go lower rank then that but your mmr probably still changes.
In B5, there are hidden ranks, after around 5 loss at the start of B5, essentially bronze6 - bronze10. If you continue to lose, you will go deeper and deeper into those hidden ranks (doubt one could hit bronze10 0 points unless they intentionally throw all the way), and that, is something you really don’t want to do if you want to climb ranks with that account at all in the future. You may think you don’t care now, but you’ll never know.
You need to climb back up you see. And there were several people who posted ‘I can’t climb out of B5 because system is bs!’. System is fine. It’s just confusing at that low rank because you can’t see visually how deep you are. You may not realize how many games you lost when you didn’t care, but you would notice them when you try to really climb (all the games you need to win to even be back at B4 or something).
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Not likely since 0 MMR is probably a lower bound (rank points = MMR).
Yes, you are the lowest possible rank and as such you cannot get any lower when losing. You are at a position where match making breaks down since it cannot resolve and as such match people at such low skill levels correctly.
That said it should be nearly impossible for people playing even the slightest bit seriously to end up with 0 rank points. That rank bracket should be filled with throwers, trolls, people messing around, frequent rage quitters and AFKers. Anyone trying to play even the slightest bit should stand high chances of winning and as such end up with at least some rank points.
https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/heroes-of-the-storm/23090871/storm-league-bronze-5-update
There is a ‘hidden’ league under B5 0 points (same as Iron league in LoL that goes below Bronze 5)
So there are indeed consequences for losing at B5 0 points. The games gradually get worse and worse because your MMR keeps decreasing.
Eventually after you lose many games at B5 0 points, you will only get 1-3 points per win but 10-20 per loss making climbing up very hard for an actual Bronze player.
(for anyone else, even a silver or gold player, they should have a fairly easy time climbing out with 80-100% win rate)
I think that applies to approaching 0 points. All the range expansion occurs above 0 points within Bronze 5. Bronze 5 itself is compressed with 0 points being absolute minimum and hence why rank points are compressed when approaching it. If negatives were allowed there would not be a need to compress the range and so people could end up with values like -5000 ranked points in Bronze 5.
Short answer: No. You are already in the lowest pits of bronze so you cant go any deeper if you lose.
It depends, if you’re in fake bronze 5 0 RP because you just dodged some games/disconnected (you get the +50 leaver points per game played), then your MMR isn’t actually at 0 so you can still lose MMR just not points. If you have no leaver pool, you are just legitimately at 0, then most likely that’s the floor so you can’t go lower. But if you’re legitimately that low it should be nearly impossible to lose games. Even a higher bronze 5 player could win near 100% if they somehow got that low, just by not intentionally throwing.
IIRC, hotslogs had MMR going all the way down to negative values.
But the ingame client is incapable of showing ranks like Bronze 7, Bronze 9 and so on even if there is an equivalent MMR to it (like -400 or -700).
That was possible in the past, a player could intentionally tank their rank very low, while remaining high MMR. But in 2019, they made your rank points always equal to your MMR.
Ranked Points are now directly mapped to a player’s Storm League MMR.
To prevent trolls from doing just that: Disconnecting a lot to become a high MMR player with a rank like Bronze.
Hotslogs estimated its own MMR. As such its MMR has nothing to do with the actual MMR used by Heroes of the Storm for match making.
As I mentioned above. The Bronze 6 to 10 are compressed in the lower part of Bronze 5. As such Bronze 10 would probably be something like 0 to 50 rank/MMR. This is why rank point changes slow down so much at the lower end of Bronze 5 since the value of a rank point is being compressed to implement these invisible lower ranks.
If they allowed negative rank points then they would have no need to compress rank points towards the bottom and instead they could have had Bronze 5 extend all the way down to -5,000 points.
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That is how I understood it as well. The client will only hand these players 4-5 points for a win because that is the ‘hidden’ league itself (b6-b10). Then as they gradually go higher and higher, they get more and more points.
Were it a normal league it would go down to -5000 points (1000 per tier).
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