I want a bruiser Johanna build

I really hope for a bruiser Johanna build to be added. Ιn d3 crusaders had very good damage, so Johanna hitting her weapon is a fly swatter is disappointing. I’d like if I could sacrifice some CC or mobility for bonus damage through talents, kind of like bruiser arthas. It kills the fantasy of the crusader for me when I deal so little damage

She is fairly banned in top MMR right now, she might even be a bit too strong to warrant damage buffs. Obnoxious and strong hero to play against.

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With falling sword doing massive damage

Makes thread asking for tank nerfs. Proceeds to make a thread then asking for a tank to be buffed in under 7 hours after the first thread.

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? You can pick blessed momentum or subdue and then pick roar and have a bruiser playstyle already if you don’t suck at landing Qs.
Well if you don’t suck…

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punish + roar has the style for hitting stuff up close then spiking some damage, but sins exposed + bless hammer can chain for hitting more targets, esp squishier backline heroes that might not expect 410 damage coming from joe.
However, getting good hits on hammers takes practice and footwork, so it ‘harder’ then condemn chains & not in the fray the same way as punish.

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Johanna has very high damage. At level 13, you have 3 damage talents and they are all very strong. At level 4, you can reduce the cooldown of “W” or increase the damage after using “E”. Both ulti do a lot of damage.
She’s already doing too much damage and you want more?

Diablo 3 is basically a solo game where all the heroes played the same “hit things, don’t die, click on things repeatedly” playstyle.

Pretty sure they didn’t want to translate that over.

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I also feel that Johanna’s creep damage is adequate, or mostly so.

I’m not sure about 1v1. She has quite a bit of sustain (trait, regen talent) however, so while she isn’t the big bully, she can hold her ground.

I like this niche of her and I wouldn’t want to trade it for a different playstyle. She is the tank for noobs and thus I can play her, when I need to fill.

That being said, Muradin talents seem to have significant impact, he can be a squishy CC cannon or almost indestructible.

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A tank with a pretty solid winrate and pickrate at that.

I honestly feel like falling sword is Bliz’s built in Johanna IQ test, and I see a lot of people fail that test.

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I asked for another build. Not buffs

You specifically cited her lack of damage, so adding damage would be… a buff…

But typical post make contradictory shower though posts.

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Not if it comes through talents at the expense of survivability or CC

She already do a lot of damage. In my games I usually end up with 40-50k damage at level 20. That’s quite a lot for a tank. You can even play her like a bruiser and go for more damage talents + falling sword. You can reach some incredible numbers with this build. When you do that, play her as the offlaner, it’s pretty fun.

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If she gets talents to make her a bruiser as well as a tank. Its a buff

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So go from 3 health bars to 2 ?!? Hmm still a buff, and what cc she has a .75 second stun and a short stun on her shield ult… maybe a slow to 80% if you can smite 4 heroes at once… I did that in AI v a team w Samuro, TLV and Rexxar… soo

Whats up with all these threads lately? And this is comming from me

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I have a month of no classes and nothing to do

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She even had a big hp nerf recently but still being picked/banned a lot. That explains everything

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