ok whatever you want dude, its still about how you choose to play the hero not how the hero is designed. if you play E engage then you have no escape thats your choice not a lack of design.
What I want is for you to actually read something. Instead, you are insulted by the idea. How low does a person have to get that they think sincere discourse is a bad thing?
Your indignant post is so disconnected from what I actually wrote and yet, you magically feel dignified in refusing to actually read something.
The problem with people that don’t know things, is they don’t know what things to argue. You not only misconstrued what I wrote, you’re now trying to elaborate that into how “I” play sylvanas – which is incredibly incorrect and you don’t even know how – and then pretend you have some case about “hero choice” vs “hero design”
It’s like you’re shooting for bronzelord bingo with about the only trope missing is the reply mired with words trying to bypass the language filter.
I would say, ironically, you have the choice to persist in your mire, but you seem content to revel in terrible design (your actions) and think faulting anyone else will somehow make it better.
Not at all, I just want to see how long you are going to keep writing 3 paragraph responses to simple posts. I’ve read everything and because I went to college I can take 2 pages of bs and condense it to a shorter summary. Given the amount of excess fluffery that’s not germane to the original topic I choose to stay focused on the essence of your original post about sylvanas and ignore the nonsense.
You choose to use her escape as an engage and thats on you (btw you can talent to get a second cast if you want and that would probably solve your problem) your issues with sylv lie in how you choose to play her those choices have consequence.
So to quote Captain America "I can do this all day "
I can tell you from experience, dating her was tough. If you really want to get anywhere with her, you gotta promise her ultimate power to rule over all of Azeroth.
You get extra points for sending her a jar of Alliance eyeballs.
Actually, you can’t. And you actually also won’t.
This exchange has already gone past one day, and even if you were to try to discount the literal saying in favor of the notion that you can keep this up, well, you haven’t been able to do that either.
Now it is true you can be obstinate and refuse to change your opinion, but you can’t be right about what you claim, and keep up your position.
Of these two, one is a lie, and the other is contradictory to the claim that is a lie. You haven’t read everything by virtue of the errant contradiction of your claim of what I wrote. Because you didn’t read everything, you didn’t notice your error, and instead refuse to notice you made said error.
This is further the case because you try to claim all other content is both ignorable, but also bs, yet you don’t refer to any of it beyond just the fixation that I “chose” to engage with E.
Since you didn’t read the material, concluded it was BS, and have otherwise ignored it – with no alteration on the other contents to indicate it is bs – this further demonstrates you did not read everything and continue to lie.
While you can conclude what I wrote is “bs” you haven’t demonstrated how *any) of it actually is. I offered factual statements regarding her talents compared to other heroes picked in a similar slot, references her usual pick trends, and offered my personal take on where her lesser-picked talents can be used.
You haven’t offered refutation, clarification, alternative perspectives, shared personal experience, or anything beyond “you engage with her escape”. At which point you seem to have entirely missed that I pointed out 3 variations for testing on a dummy to get a feel for her damage abilities. My intro, middle and end have points of indicating that players need to avoid unnecessary damage on sylvanas, and while I am particular to stutter stepping, at not point have I said her only, or my prefered, form to engage is with E.
So you have demonstrably taken information you choose to ignore, assume portions of the writer (that don’t matter) and haven’t done anything to refute the complications I have presented regarding your opinion and testimony.
There is nothing “bs” about pointing out that her E can be used to trigger dagger aoe, be used to reset Q, or she engage without it. For being able to “summarize” 2 pages, you clearly haven’t done that and have instead made 2 key errors:
- You apparently think the first line is the ‘thesis’ of my post
- You apparently thought I summarized my own post with the 1,2,3
Both assumptions are incorrect, and your inability (and refusal) to see otherwise puts more doubt on the claim of your capabilities than your word suggests them to be honest.
Since I have pointed out several instances of deplorable conduct on your end (that suggests you aren’t honest) simply claiming something (demonstrably untrue at that) not only doesn’t help you seem more honest, it’s just another instance of incongruity if what you claim, and what you do.
The “revel” of your intent is essentially admitting that you’re trying to troll. You aren’t helping the OP – which doesn’t help your assessment of what is “germaine” to the topic, but you’d actually have to have read the topic to notice that – and claim you want to “see” how many “paragraphs” of a sort I’ll write.
If you were as literate as you so claim, then you’d probably notice that by now, I post lots of long walls because of a core concern I have for the game at large. You’ve posted in some of the topics, some of which were replies to me, so the claim to “want to see” someone keep this up is both insincere and likely just a cover for your “I read this stuff” narrative.
If a concern is that players have problems in-game because of stuff they don’t know, and it takes length to explain things they don’t know, then I’m going to write things to explain that stuff out in the hopes of making things better for them.
If something is in error, then people should point that out, provide clarification, and suggest how the error is problematic. Of your contributions, you have pretty much focused on two lines, one of which was I did point out was in error from your claim, and the other you keep ranting about as if it actually represents a summary of all I wrote. The irony of your position is that I have commented on the choice of the players on how they can play sylvanas and I endorsed some talent choices that aren’t lowly regarded, or aren’t “meta” to pick.
The reality of what I actually posted offsets your claim of the contents, arguably confirms you did not read it, and at present you have not provided any 'summary" of the post of your own volition. Instead you have cherry-picked one line, ignored the rest, and considered yourself literate and contributing on that basis.
So despite my having written all the effects of that ‘proof’ days before this new wall, the end effect is they you have been an effectual liar that deludes themselves into presenting ignorance as empowering.
And to that end, I have written, and continue to write, several posts pointing out the errors of those mindset, how that likely leads to frustrations that people have in-game, and outlets for how they can curtail those issues.
If you “read everything” then at some point you should have noticed that that is my ‘thesis’ and it’s also why I keep posting to essentially “troll” posters that magically think that my responded to them was because of their ‘bait’. Unfortunately, since they aren’t reading, paying attention, and contributing accordingly, they haven’t noticed that they essentially trolled themselves.
It doesn’t matter if a “simple” post is simple, if it’s incorrect information, it should probably be corrected because ignoramuses are often satisfied by the “simple” and use that as more excuses to fuel self-inflicted problems that they refuse to notice, and change, so long as they have anything else to blame.
You ignore information, fault others for your own problems, refuse to demonstrate proof of your own claims, and in effect keep on demonstrating you are your own problem, and that tends to be part of the biggest issues of this game.
So given my ‘actual’ thesis, yea, I’m going to keep posting replies elaborating on how ‘proof’ of those flaws can be seen some refuse to actually accept that that is possible, and they do so because they refuse to read.
Your cognitive bias (filter on what information you process) is not the “essence” of my original post. It is however, proof of your inability to be consistent in your claim and conduct, and apparently not notice the difference.
No I can read the entire context and recognize filler when I see it. The difference between you and I is, I know my audience doesn’t want a wall of text when 1 or 2 sentences work miracles.
You should try being concise it works miracles.
X Doubt
For someone claiming to know their audience, you certainly have been lacking in response compared to what was actually posted that was relevant to the topic.
Having the capacity to only process 1-2 sentences doesn’t mean that’s all the audiences ‘needs’, let alone “wants”. As soon as people post something that agrees with what they want, they’ll favor all the length they can get. When people see 1 thing they don’t like, they’ll dismiss all the length and context in favor of claiming they know better, and create contradiction to only fixate on the one thing.
When you stop lying to yourself over 1-2 basic sentences that will be the working of miracles. 
The key indication on this is you keep posting in generalities to skirt around claiming you saw the whole, but you never reference anything beyond the initial dislike. Were you actually more aware of the content, you’d reference more particulars instead of the same example over and over again.
Show vs tell, specific vs generic; if you’re going to prop yourself up as a capable reader, you’d be showing more capacity for the stuff that actually demonstrates that instead of the fluff people post to delude themselves accordingly. Esp since those that do know better, actually show they they do instead of constantly claiming it to the case, and demonstrating perpetual contradiction.
Meh Just save e for escape and you’ll be fine. If you need to use it for engage take the second haunting wave talent and get in/get out quickly.
https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/eg80q1/indepth_guide_to_sylvanas/
A guide I made almost a year ago. Hopefully even a sour, world-hating autistic cretin like myself can still be helpful to someone.
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Ok, I spent almost all time with Sylvanas, and I always hope she gets a little stronger on next update as lack of selfsustain is cripling her all day long when facing any1 with poke and chance to heal self.
Few talens I want to mention.
Level 1: Stacking dagger is completely useless. Your atempt to get at least some use of it result into - not working lanes properly, not moving properly in tf, not using dagger as it may happen I can use it for stacking any time later, right? Price you pay for your stacking atempts is so high and dagger itself is growing soo little it never pays off. So much for only quest Sylva has. It is a trap.
Level 4: Again, merc queen is a trap. You need to push uncontested, and if you push with camp, you cannot work elsewhere and if all camps are taken or you are defending, this talent get wasted. On the other hand Possesion shines here. It mitigate damage enemy wave would do to you, it can prevent enemy wave to hit towers, it buys you lot of time while tearing structure … well placed possision stop enemy minions while yours are focused on structure. Possession all day long.
Level 7: I like barbed shot, as it helps a lot in 1:1. With wildruners, Life drain and Withering barage you can duel almost all heroes and you do reasonable high damage. Considering Sylva need to stay in fight for a few sec before curses stacks, barbed shop helps with selfsustain and makes her live longer. I agree, if enemy team is clumped, this talent is almost wasted.
Level 10: I REALLY dont understand all the thrill about Wailing arrow. This skill is like shooting with black powder musket. You just make lot of smoke, you will probably miss and realod takes AGES. There was nice article about HOW you silence, aspecialy at level 20, and inner circle has to hit heroes CENTER and so while 10 is weak, 20 is useless. MC has reasonable CD, can be used defensively, is great while dueling - insta stacks and let you unload, heal, and send wave to dodge or flank. And you cannot miss becouse you cannot detonate as you get stunned. Learn to use MC and WA is as good as gone.
level 13: hahaha … some1 was really trying to make a joke on Sylva players. but you shoudl stick with Wildruners. Dagger is nice onyl if your team can protect you well. And increased range is just joke-trap, as Diablo charge even further and 9 of 10 heroes will close distance regardless. Wildrunners let you make double-fly, first one short, just to get away from hot ground and then long range wave to get you safe. having only one wave means you will eat stun/polymorpf, root and bye bye. So no, you cannot use more damage and you cannot get safer by increasd range. You need to fly.
level 16: yeah, another joke on miserable life of Sylvanas. Finally you can get some selfsustain so you dont start each fight on half hp, but price is increased movement. I say Will of Forsaken is a trap. You are trying to escape CC, which will have much shorted CD than you skill. One bad timming and bye bye. Also dont take Evasive fire as tool to escape. it work well only as offensive skill. Any hero will fart on you slow which will freeze you on place regardlesss yo your evasive stacks. Healing let you do camps, let you enter fight and tf with more hp and will let you face high hp heroes in duel.
Level 20: It is easy. Barage. Or if you have a good team and enemy got stuns you can pick DLC. but Barrage makes more sense. Becouse look at your build. You have heal. And you heal ALL damage not just AA, and with barbed shot you extra hit just more offten with barrage and wildrunets refresh your Q as well and level 1 Banshee queen gets boosted by all your Q all day long.
You shoot faster, applying curse faster you spam Q all day long increasing you AA AND spellpower so next Q is stronger and you AA faster and you can spam fly as it gets you more Q and more AA and when enemy release its superskill you just MC him and QWE again. Skils in this build support each other and yuo can actualy kill something.
You need to learn how to fly away from Butcher, Xull, Chromie and you need to learn avoid enemies like Alarak and learn to watch enemy CD before you dive. But it is all doable.
Gl