I just watched a video when it says that Silvanas is stronger than malf, he wasn’t like super strong or something?
He was never that strong. Just some druid who worships nature
Lore wise very. But in WoW he doesn’t do anything. And Sylvanas shouldn’t be as strong as she is. Makes no sense.
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Malfurion has always relied on his wits and ancient knowledge to win battles. He defeated Archimonde because he assembled the Druids and used the Horn of Cenarius. He was smart enough to know he needed mortal help. He defeated Xavius because he slowly grew a root to notify someone or something (he was a tree. Also I barely remember Stormrage). He’s never been an insane powerhouse. just a wise and competent ruler.
It’s not like Sylvanas, who beats up the most powerful being on Azeroth and rips a hole into another dimension because I dunno plaht.
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Wasn’t it the wisps that defeated archimonde. Malf just kinda stood there.
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He assembled the spirits of nature and conducted the ritual to empower the wisps. He did the planning, they did the grunt work.
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All I know is that when we go to kill his girlfriend in Teldrassil, he just stands there and watches.
“That was for Val’sharah, wench!”
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Lore wise, he was blessed by cenarius over his brother, illidan. He is supposed to be super strong and baseline, is stronger than Sylvanas.
Sylvanas is only strong because she made a deal with the ‘jailer’ from shadowlands which is why she was able to defeat Saurfang and Bolvar, the lich king, with ease.
Essentially, she causes the turmoil and feeds souls to the jailer in exchange for power. It’s why she abandoned the Horde and said she doesn’t need them (loyalist campaign).
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Sylvanas is very powerful now. She’s getting the Kerrigan treatment.
That sounds terrible in all aspects.
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I mean, they kind of run out of ideas. I don’t think they ever planed anything after MoP. They are just throwing stuff out there, see what sticks. Legion lore was passable; WoD and BfA lore were real trash, maybe it’ll be better for Shadowlands…
Sylvanas is just their latest pray of ‘strange’ writing. I’m reserving judgement to see what they do with her.
Shadowlands is supposed to explain that. Basically, when people die, their souls go to the Arbiter, who rules the Shadowlands, to be sorted out into the many realms based on their character and deeds (i.e. Uther goes one place, KT goes another, Garona yet another, etc.). However, the worst souls, the ones that cannot be redeemed, are thrown into the “Maw” (which is basically WoW’s version of the Judaeo-Christian Hell) where they are tormented by the “Jailer of the Damned.” We first got a vision of the Maw when Sylvanas tried to commit suicide after Arthas was defeated in WotLK.
Normally, only the worst and most irredeemable souls, like Arthas and the like, would go to the Maw, but in recent years all souls have, for some reason, been falling into the Maw. This includes all recently deceased characters, including “heroes” like Varian, Tirion, Varok Saurfang, etc. Somehow, Vol’jin’s soul managed to avoid being sucked in by seemingly being booted out of the Shadowlands (my hunch is the Arbiter did it).
At some point, Sylvanas allied herself with the Jailer and it seems began drawing power from them. Since the Jailer draws power from the souls he controls and Sylvanas draws power from them, the more souls they have the more powerful Sylvanas becomes as well. And since all souls are going to the Maw, her recent mass-murdering sprees, like the conflicts of the Legion expansion, the execution of dozens of Forsaken and humans, the burning of Teldrassil, etc, have greatly increased her power. Even her former allies in the Horde were surprised by her powerspike. Before, she couldn’t defeat Malfurion in a one-on-one, but at the start of Shadowlands, she could almost effortlessly thrashed Bolvar, the current Lich King himself, along with all his guards at Icecrown.
We’ll inevitably learn more when Shadowlands eventually releases, and I highly suspect Vol’jin will play a distinctly non-minor part in it.
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Malfurion is very powerful, but he’s not a super strong fighter.
In fantasy there’s a very stark difference between magical power and physical power. In physical power he’s probably a little bit stronger than the normal bear druid. In magical power he’s insanely strong.
I have mixed feelings on BFA. BFA definitely had its high points, like Drustvar or G’huun.
But Nazjatar was definitely a let down, and the battle for Dazar’alor was, eh, okay.
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all you need is magic though; he collapsed a house by just looking at it in Before the Storm. How much physical strength would it require to collapse a house?
And bro, yeah, Naz was a complete let down. I was actually excited to see Naga in their native environment. What I got was a series of annoying and repetitive quests that give 50 rep each so you need way too many of them for flight.
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He was stronger than her at the beginning of BfA, but after the genocide at Teldrassil and the rest of the Horde/Alliance war and whatever happens in Visions of N’Zoth, her power spiked massively from all the souls fed to the Jailer, allowing her to solo the raid boss that is Lich King Bolvar with barely a scratch by the time Shadowlands rolls around.
And yeah, LK Bolvar is absolutely more powerful than Malfurion, so Sylvanas definitely is too.
Not including technology, it’s generally considered magical power has greater potential than physical power. However, the drawbacks are that magical power is much more difficult to wield, is harder to command, and generally takes up much more resources than physical power.
I actually was super excited about kerrigan back when the first triler of Heart of the Swarm was released, then I witness the terrible writting that was the actual game. After I watched the silvanas cinematic I became afraid they repeat what they did to Kerrigan.
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There’s a reason for that, Metzen quit writing for WoL right before the end, and an entirely new writer had to pick up for HeartotS.
well in a 1V1 malfurion has some tricks and is not an easy opponent, but he isnt amazing in 1V1s at all mainly cuz druids arent meant for this type of combat. but in a general case, he is tremendously strong, he conjured up a tornado in an area that was breaking apart ( darkshore, before BFA ) to keep the landmass together which is nuts really. he is prolly one of the strongest mortals on par with cucumber-lover khadgar.