HOTS's Surrender Option

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It has come to my attention that, even after 4 years, players still are not aware of Hots’s Surrender option, so I am here to inform you.

As it seems, many are unaware that the game actually DOES have a surrender mechanic, likely because no one has cared to inform them. Hots is built as a team game, whether it is planning, fights, or even down to experience points. This even applies to the surrender mechanic which is such:

In the event that ALL 5 members of a team quit a match, then the game will register that as a surrender, since the TEAM has chosen to all give up. The core will detonate and the opposing team will be declared the winner. As compensation to those who surrendered, the game will not force you to rejoin the game as that match has ended. Signing back in, you are allowed to enter lobby and queue for a new match.

Okay just wanted to drop by to inform you all, have a good night

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I Found Footage of Surrender Mechanic
Ability to Forfeit
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I swear I was so baffled when this happened in a highlight video.

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Honestly, I’m surprised so few people care to inform other players of this hidden mechanic.

Perhaps they are concerned that, supposedly like with a Surrender Button, players would abuse it, leaving games more often

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i need the sauce for this.

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I don’t remember which video it happened in unfortunately. :sob:

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I know it’s been featured in highlight videos, but cannot remember which one.

And there are several hundred

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And this is exactly why HOTS is a dead game nobody plays, great job

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Welp so far, no luck, but I did find this funny moment:

@SgtCreamSoda
What do you mean by that? Do you mean how I cannot remember where I found a recorded example? Welp there are over 270 highlight/“wtf” compilations that have to be gone through, will be hard to find the clips

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Probably because you still lose MMR and you’re put in leaver queue while all you get is no rejoin button. Yeah, “mechanic”.

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Hey, it’s still a surrender mechanic, which people keep posting about “There’s no surrender option, blizz should add one”

Just want to inform people there is, still counts as them being leavers and a loss

Still sorting through the works. Another fun clip I found though, and it is genius!:

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Technically it is a surrender but it requires so much effort, collaboration and no guarantee. It adds more headache, time and effort for the outcome.

A physical surrender button request then other 4 members to say yes would be suffice.

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Yeah this will work well:

Player 1… Were 3 tiers down lets just all quit at once…
Player 2… won’t we get in trouble ?
Player 1… Naaah I saw it on the interwebs…
Player 3 … Thats a valid source… No possible troll there I’m in
Player 4… I’m down…
Player 1 … 5 How about you ?
---- ping player 1 dies again because negotiating surrender and missed 4 man gank
player 5… well ok sure.
Player 1 here we go we all quit
— player 1 has left the game
— Player 2 has left the game
— Player 3 has left the game
— player 4 has left the game
Player 5 – buttheads, I told them not to 1st pick nova and butcher and that li-ming and valla were bad follow ups what did they expect.

Player 5-- I may loose this game but while those numb nuts are in leaver queue it means they won’t be on my team again… Muahahahahahhahahah

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If there is an in game surrender option I would like it to be a little checkbox next to your portrait. Game auto ends if all 5 members of team have it clicked. And this way, no one could see who else is wanting to surrender.

But I can see issues with one person throwing the match to try and force everyone else to surrender. This kinda happens anyways though.

I also think surrenders should be slightly more than a regular loss, like 1.25 points lost in order to encourage people seeing the match through unless they are absolutely certain. This would hopefully discourage trolling with it as well.

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But it’s a unanimous decision. Even if only one player of the team left decided to fight on, no one has the right to deny that fighting spirit.

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I think you aren’t aware how unanimous decisions are formed in real life. It isn’t really about everyone feeling the same, it’s peer pressure if not downright bullying. When somebody doesn’t surrender when 4 other players do then suddenly that player is the bad guy. Even if they have a legit reason or because they are the solo player in team with a toxic 4-stack. Unanimous decisions are the equivalent of everyone having veto rights on a decision. This is nice in theory but in reality whenever you veto something you’re immediately becoming the target of spite and hostility in the lines of “How you dare to think differently!”.

This is just the part about the process. The other part is the whole issue with surrender option. For starters you gain a few minutes at best by implementing this to HotS. While also introducing a new mechanic to throw games and ruin matches because some people are just unwilling to actually play. Long queue times are brought up as a reason why this would make sense. No, it doesn’t. Even if you could queue immediately after quitting a match it doesn’t mean you’d get into the new match significantly faster. You still just cut off that 10 or so minutes of struggle. This is still just an escape method to face struggles and experience failure. Nothing to really do with time.

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In your own words, it would be better to encourage quitters than those with sportsmanship that chose to tough it out?

Definition of unanimous by Oxford Dictionary:
“Unanimous” (Adjective)

  • if a decision or an opinion is unanimous, it is agreed or shared by everyone in a group

Your make up definition is invalidated.

That’s what gonna happen if the quitter button is introduced to this game.

If one found playing this game is a struggle, they shouldn’t have done it in the first place.

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This happened the other day after a server crash. I got an instant win after my 4 team mates left.

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Again, just saying.
Even if it isnt the BEST option available, it is still an option

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ALT + F4 always worked, too…

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they just need to put it as an option for the team to vote for, toxicity in this game would drop if there was a surrender option to just basically end games that are complete stomps, you know the ones. where they kill all your forts and you get none of theirs, 3 levels ahead etc. those games only breed frustration and frustration leads to toxicity