My goal was to gather a layer of knowledge aside from popular opinions and meta picks. Certain heroes might not have the best win rate overall, but still have their place to counter certain picks. Of course, it’s a safe bet to pick a strong hero overall. I’m providing more options draft wise to avoid thinking “gg they got Rexxar”.
Here’s the spreadsheet I’ve worked with. The math was simple. Subtracting a hero’s win rate matchup against other heroes from it’s own win rate. The lowest numbers would represent counters and the highest numbers would represent heroes that counters them. For example, Ana is great vs Sgt. Hammer for a good follow up on her Sleep Dart and Biotic Grenade but terrible against a diver hero like Anub’arak that can Cocoon a Nano Boost target. Samuro would still be good against her, but the math doesn’t show him since he’s already a good hero in most situations.
I might do an other list like this, but with matchup when played with a certain hero. I’ll think about it.
Notes:
-The heroes are in order of importance. The first one is the highest priority. It’s not a 1v1 situation, but an overall matchup stat including macro and utility.
-The datas are from June 2020 to September 2020 in SL dia+ on heroes over lvl 10 from heroesprofile.
-Cho, Gall, Probius, D.Va and Gazlowe are not added. There’s not enough datas. Edit: I added D.Va just for the sake of it only in her section, but be awake that the datas are mostly (56%) before her rework)
-Lots of heroes will show in a section, but not always show on the opposite matchup. Example: Deckard counters Alex, but will not show that Alex is countered by Deckard. This is mainly due to Deckard not being one of the best counter to Alex although being still a strong one.
Edit: The format is too painful here, so I wrote it on a spreadsheet.
I don’t know how accurate this is but props for all the work and dedication you poured in it.
Sgt hammer countering almost all the cast, i hate her even more
You may want to add Lunara as a Counter for Samuro.
Her Wisp can differentiate between his Mirror Images and himself. Her DoT can prevent his stealth and he is vulnerable against DoT.
You have forgot Zeratul, Genji and Tracer.
You can add Malthael and Illidan too.
How does Tassadar counter The Butcher, Khara and Kerrigan? They are dive heroes, Tassadar doesn’t have Dimensional Shift anymore and Force Wall isn’t enough.
Plus you don’t have nerfed DS until 13 lvl and you don’t take it all time.
She counters Tracer too. You go W/AAS and poke her by hard AAs. She can’t get close and may die trying.
Isn’t DW countering every Melee-Assassin?
I must say I haven’t played all Melees but from my experience is every Hero in a bad place when he wants to get in close range with DW.
If I encounter Melee-Assassins I usually pick Dragon Soul on 1 and Heat Wave on 4. This makes it difficult for most of the Melees to stay in close range.
Illidan was a close counter to TLV, but not the others despite popular belief. And, that’s the whole point of my list. It’s not subjective.
Tassadar would counter some dive heroes by pressing R and cutting off their disengage will Force Wall. He’s a soak machine in the 4 man, thus finely protected.
Nova is not one of the best counter to Tracer. This is why she’s not on the list.
one HELL of a dedication. but some notes ill be updating tomorrow:
-illidan counters ragnaros badly, as well as lunara.
-whitemane and morales are not rag counters though. ( morales 100% not counter, whitemane has a channeled slow but if shes caught by E build shes absolutely ded. its somewhat true for Q but not as much )
-if you wanna add orphea as a rag counter you can but its only 75% counter really from E build
-butcher is actually COUNTERED by ragnaros, not the opposite. the stun does not mean much with E and Q build and stun resistance.
-tyrande is gray spot. maybe 65% counter but its really not that bad. it can get annoying though.
however an important note is that ragnaros is actually 3 heroes in 1. he can either 200% counter melee with Q build, he can 100% counter range and counter some melee with E build, and he can go W build and become literally ranged assassin.
i NEVER address base ragnaros as a counter to anything, in fact, as im ALWAYS saying builds. the ONLY hero that rag counters with ALL 3 builds is samuro. its hilarious. but for all other heroes its all build-related. personally i’d make him into 3 parts for each build.
a comp can include 2 ranged heroes, 2 melee, and a healer, ALL OF WHICH are countered by rag from your chart. but each for 1 build. if it were stitches and muradin for example Q build will MELT them but E is meh. similarly, ming, morales, and nova are all countered by E build horribly but Q is very meh. W build can counter ranged builds and is kinda an addition for your team so its less of “how good against opponents” and more “how good for the team” so its not mentioned alot.
base rag for me only ever counters :
-samuro
-PROPABLY KTZ
-TLV
things that counter rag for all builds:
-lunara
-illidan
it gets more detailed for every build but these are heroes for ALL builds
ps: you mentioned nova as both a counter for rag AND countered by rag. for me she is 50/50. ( depends on skill )
Tracer is one of the best hero in the game. She’s almost always banned.
Tychus, Junkrat and Azmodan are average, but are surprisingly having better results than the majority of their games when facing Tracer.
Their macro is alright and they can delete Tracer fairly quickly with their ult and trait.
Johanna with her trait down is a dead Johanna in the hands of Garrosh.
The second hero that Ragnaros is countering is in fact Samuro. It doesn’t mean that Samuro’s second best counter is Ragnaros.
Ragnaros’s most popular build is E with Lava Wave. He’s a monster at double soaking, way better than Illidan. In team fights, an isolated Illidan won’t do much vs Rag. Lunara is pretty decent vs him, but not one of the best.
Now, I’m getting tired of all of this. The list is not my own opinion and I’ll surely won’t add a hero’s counter based on others opinion. If you want, there’s a site called heroescounter and you can vote for the counter of your choice.