Hanzo is a very nice macro hero. Sure he’s been nerfed a little too hard…but he doesn’t have to play as an omegalul bow sniper, he can just split push, pick up a few kills and do well that way.
Very safe, very good at macro.
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Hanzo is not nerfed too hard, he’s just among the hardest Heroes.
He has nice dmg, even for PvE, so you can push as him.
But his escape (Trait) is only good for mid to lower ranks, so ppl should keep that in mind if they want to overextend as him.
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No he is not. You just met too many people who ignored you or were bad to say this.
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Ah, more toxic Blizzard fans. Stay classy.
Rarely have seen this. All I know is expert hanzo players are a nightmare to deal with.
He shines even more in aram
How exactly was my response toxic? You’re trying to tell me Hanzo with literally zero waveclear besides explosing arrow at 7 or self sustain is good at split pushing. No he is not.
Any hero can be schockingly good at split push being ignored in lane or facing someone bad.
Stay classy.
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Hanzo has excellent wave clear at lvl 4. Especially if you go for AA lvl 1. If you don’t understand why your response wasn’t toxic you need to do some self reflection and figure out how to talk to people properly.
Next time I report you. K?
His response wasn’t toxic. Yours is. Your toxicity while complain about a nothing case is beyond hypocritical. You are the only one in this thread that needs self reflection.
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It’s not. OP is just reading too much into it and taking it personally. Ironic considering their comment history.
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“No he is not. You just met too many people who ignored you or were bad to say this.”
Is pretty toxic. But OKAY. Prove my point for me. Toxic nerds are the worst.
I am having a hard time deciding if I agree with the OP. I guess if you went Redemption at 1 and Ignore All Distractions at 4 then you can do some decent pushing IF you get your Redemption stacks. However it’s super risky to push with Hanzo since he’s so squishy and only has 1 possible escape tool. What’s even worse is once you get ganked, you will need to grab 3 more Redemption stacks again before you can continue your push. Imho, the phrase “shockingly good” is perhaps a sizeable exaggeration.
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Potentially, regardless that’s exactly the waveclear talent setup. Redemption + No Distractions.
You have to be really careful to not get ganked and have excellent map awareness while using your trait perfectly for the reason you’re stating. If you screw up, then you have to go get some more stacks which in turn really influences your overall ability to get 17-20k xp soak. Ideally you want those stacks before lvl 4 that way you can rotate like a madlad and it hurts a lot if you can’t get those stacks.
Dude grow up. One person disagrees with you and you call it toxic. Seriously idk why you’re so hurt by that. His response was nowhere near toxic.
If you’re playing Hanzo for wave clear idk why you’re playing Hanzo. He is much better in PvP. Plus two of your basic abilities do 0 damage to structures, and both ults do nothing to structures. You can only hit structures with Q and AA’s. There are way better heroes to splitpush than Hanzo like this is literally the dumbest use case for him.
Dank did used the word poorly but I think everyone got on the wrong foot here. Range assassin in general have the capacity to wave clear. It’s actually quality/categorization better have as range assassin than not (which is why Nova is considered crap in normal games) as they often/sometimes have to rotate to clear two lanes. However, it is misleading to call it ‘split push’. That seems to be the only problem here. Real ‘split push’, it is only recommended for certain range assassins, like Zagara.
I think I should be the one to mention this. His E can damage structures. So unless you really need proper placement of vision, it is better to hit towers for instance for damage and vision (which I learned from pros years ago).
Iirc, E is low on dmg and high on mana so you waste resources and lower your dps if you use E on Structures instead of just keep AAing with Qs inbetween.
Even then, he’s not as good at clearing waves vs other heroes like Sylvanas, Zagara, Jaina, Valla, Orphea, Guldan, Kael’thas, Kel’thuzad, Raynor, etc. That isn’t what Hanzo should be doing, so tbh he shouldn’t be praised for having subpar wave clear when you need 12 redemption stacks to do it efficiently, which require you to hit heroes at least 24 times. Why not just stay with your team and win team fights? Then you don’t even need to worry about “split pushing”.
Its not shocking, and its not good. Its not that he’s wrong about the one word. He’s wrong in general.
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