And nobody told me jack in that thread. Yeah, i am ripping on the hero. cause he sux and i wish he didn’t.
Copy pasted from my replies. If this isn’t what your looking for then idk how to help you.
Also i was far from the only person that tried to help.
Hanzo is one of those heroes where if you get really good with him, your basically unstoppable. Alot of getting good with Hanzo comes with practicing your aim then anything else.
W and Trait both require walls and both ults are alot more effective if fired down straights or chokepoints.
With Q build, focus on getting the range boost as soon as you can. The damage boost is nice but not what makes that build so good. Stand behind walls and outside of vision while you snipe anyone you can for big chunks of damage then, close the distance when its safe to do so for some AAs as well. Once you get the piecing arrows at 16 you can choose to become a very effective split pusher as Q will now one shot waves from outside of creep vision which is pretty annoying for the other team. Hitting a hero with the explosion and directly will do nearly one shot levels of damage if your keeping your spell power stacked as well. Not a very complicated build and good on any map.
With W build positioning is the most important factor in whether you can hit halfway decent Ws on cooldown or not. Always be thinking about where you are and learn the shape of each wall as many of the angled ones are not straight but more jagged which can hurt your aim if your not aware but will easily catch enemy players when they don’t expect it. If you make it to 20 with dragon strike you can pretty easily ult every 10 seconds or so.
Finally, AA hits really hard and is pretty scary with a stim or aba hat.
A lot of the build can come down to how you handle the Ignore All Distractions talent at 4. Hitting a minion lets you play as sgt hammer for 2-3 AAs which is pretty oppressive in lane. I wouldn’t recommend this build until you’ve got the rest of the hero down as losing the attack speed kills your damage until you get it back.
Also take siege camps often, you kill em fast with hanzo
A lot of it is just the standard stuff that makes hitting skill shots easier.
Fire and charge your Q from outside enemy vision and shoot from behind walls. Really just anything to obscure their vision of you fireing. Basically, all this gives the enemy less time to react.
Next, enemies who are either near a wall or walking directly away/towards from you are easier to hit. Enemies near walls have fewer options in terms of dodging and those walking towards of away from you are easier because you can fire directly at them.
Piercing arrows at 16 is an option for when theres a ton of summons and minions in your way and will also help you stack The Dragon Hungres faster if you manage to hit 2 heroes.
Finally, keep an eye and ear out for when CC lands. Thats a free hit.
You cant expect to hit every shot with how thin the arrow is but I hope this at least helps c :
Honesty im kind of insulted.
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He’s kinda right though. As you are saying yourself, hanzo’s skill shot are hard to hit but lets say a player is very precise and hits most of his skillshots (masters+ players), he then becomes quite a potent hero that can absolutely change the outcome of a game by himself. Being able to AoE stun and enemy team from afar is incredible and his safe poke with decent burst (1-1.5k burst in the midgame with a good scatter arrow) is extremely valuable in high elo. The fact a hero isnt performing well at lower elo doesnt mean he’s a bad hero or require buffs.
Medivh is a great exemple of that. At lower league, nobody uses portals so medivh isnt great but in grandmaster, medivh is borderline broken. Its okay for some heroes to be balanced for higher level players. Not all heroes should be QM / noob friendly and those high skill heroes dont necessarily require a buff.
That being said, if you are trying to carry a bunch of gold league potatos, there are probably heroes that can do it better than hanzo, mostly because his early game waveclear is quite bad and nobody ever soaks at anything below masters. So if thats what you’re looking for, i’d advise playing ragnaros, sonya and other heavy wave clear / sustain bruisers.
That really depends on what league you are from. “A truly good hero for lower leagues” is what you should be saying.
Good heroes in silver (Kaelthas, gazlowe) sometimes arent as powerful at the high end of the ladder and vice-versa. And thats healthy game design. It allows high level players to pick more complex heroes/comps and use their high skill to make a difference.
By the time i gave up on Hanzo, i was over 80 matches with him and had gotten pretty good at landing/questing out stormbow. But the damage output just sucked. The enemy team would just tank everything i shot and keep plowing forward.
So it’s not just that his moves are much harder to land but, they don’t do jack when they do hit. It’s a lot of work for very little return.
But again, i welcome any Hanzo Masters to prove me wrong and give me the full breakdown on him. If any exist that is…
storm bow build is very meh, scattering is far stronger. Thats the tool master hanzo’s carry with. The burst and safety of it is quite high, but its very hard to master.
Why does someone have to be a master hanzo for them to be worth listening to?
Because only they will know how to truely, effectively play the character. I want to hear from those who play him 24/7. That really KNOW the character in & out.
The rest of you guys who don’t really play him much, if at all, and just going on what you’ve heard/seen? Zero value. You’re just running your mouths.
Go watch replays from Bishepss, Unaverted, Mene, MyTry, Qepi or ENiGMATiC from heroesprofile.
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If high a diamond who does play lots of hanzo isn’t good enough, your gonna have to do some actual research. What your asking for is someone from roughly 1.5% of the playerbase who also happens to be diehard for an unpopular hero and frequents the forums to be nice enough to awnser someone who thinks their favorite hero is mega trash.
Also why do only masters know their heroes in and out? Its not like theres zero value in what non masters have to say.
This applies to you as well.
First off, who is this Diamond player that plays Hanzo a lot?
Secondly, I can tell you’ve been low-key trolling at this point.
Third, you don’t truly know a character until you’ve played them LONG-TERM. Hots is one of those games where you have to invest serious time into each character to truly know them. Not just any fool can roll up and tell you how to play a character Effectively, because of things “they heard”. Or having played a handful of matches themselves.
Being a Long-Time SgT. Hammer & Azmo player, i know this all to well. I’ve lost count how much dumb crap i’ve seen, not just on this forum but, various other sites (Icy-veins anyone?). By players who’ve only spent a little time with each and think they know to how play them.
Me
I don’t like flaunting my rank around so sorry I didn’t open with that but I try not to do that because its rude.
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I looked up your profile. You’ve only played Hanzo 73 matches?
I don’t upload my games to heroes profile.
I didn’t think anybody did. It thought it just shows up there automatically. I ask because i looked up my profile and, it says i’ve only played Hanzo 12 times. When i’ve played 95 matches with him. Odd.
Other people can upload their games that ive been in and thats why there are some stats but thats far from everybody.
It’s not like the site has direct access to your computer or to hots servers. Everything is user generated.
Not that im a heroes profile dev but ya know.
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How many matches have you played with Hanzo then?
And are you saying unless you upload stuff directly, the only thing that will appear on Heroes Profile, is what others have uploaded? That you just happened to be in?
Im at work atm but im pretty sure I’m level 40 something. Im not absolutely diehard only pick hanzo but he is someone i consider when i dont get to play healer.
That is correct.
Well, like i’ve been saying, it doesn’t matter how long you’ve played the game and how good you are with OTHER characters. It doesn’t translate into being good with EVERY character by default.
Example: You can’t be a beast with Butcher and Deathwing for years, and expect to pick up Tycus for the first time ever and clean house with him. You may be a veteran at the game but, you are still a NEWBIE Tycus in that example. You’re gonna get your head bashed in countless times by other players, till you learn Tycus, as well as you do your mains.
On top of all that…lvl. 40? That’s kinda weak.
Whatever… Ok, what Hanzo talents do you usually pick and why?
I don’t care if you’ve been playing the game for 50 years. Everytime you pick up and learn a new character for the first time ever? It’s like you’re a newbie to the game all over again.
You’re not going to be playing high-level. Not until you invest the time and effort to learning that new character in & out, like you have your other mains.
Now if you mean when it comes to fighting/approaching other characters in matches? Then yeah. You have to know a little about how each character operates in order to fight them effectively and, stay away from their particular set-ups.
Its really not that extreme.
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