Yes a cooldown of 120 is too high. Maybe 80 seconds for the optimal talent that it is.
The talent could be OP if you specced attack speed for Tyrael and spammed abilities in a cluster team fight. In theory you could have a permanent defense of the Angels armor during a clustered team fight.
Edit: I gave it a test and it works nicely on clusters or heavy moving targets. The shield duration can go on average for 10 seconds (if focused on agile targets) to permanent duration (if focused on heavy mobile targets like diablo or Jo) of a teamfight. It makes it easier speccing talents for quicker cool-down for abilities as well, so you can cast abilities quicker and keep the shield duration even longer. It’d be a good zoning tool at higher levels of plays where players that might be aware about the shield and its procs and will try to get away from Tyrael in order to not be attacked to keep his shield on. I might have to use this talent down the track. The potential is nice. If it’s as strong as I think it is, then it could warrant a reason why it has a 120 seconds kewl down. Take Ardent with shield and you’ll get perma-healing during the teamfight.
As someone who used to take the armor talent at 20 I second that the cooldown needs to be reduced. 80 sec would mean he would have it for two fights, if two fights were to ever happen. The new functionality of the talent is actually quite appealing when going bruiser build.
It’s also hard to sustain with how many times you’re actually hitting an enemy hero. Thinking about it, you’d have to be hitting with both your mobility tools on multiple heroes to truly gain the benefit, but yea, the CD is too long for an average of 50 armor over 7 seconds.
Could we rename the talent as something like “justice’s fervor” or “unrelenting justice”? I find the name misleading now that it became a more offensive talent.
So you have changed the way you interact with us in the forums?
I’m glad to see you are now willing to show what you think and give your opinions about our proposals.
This is 3 years late, but i am happy to finally see this happen.
Would you please comment on my Medivh forced camera movement posts?
I am convinced beyond a doubt that even if you have never played Medivh i can bring you to understand the problem very easily.
You have seen no more than 30, since that’s how many he has posted in his entire life.
You have almost 30 times more posts than Jackson, practically the only developer that ever writes something on these forums, because the average among the devs seems to be around 5, you know. 5 posts.
I feel like i am the only person acting in favor of the interests of a community that is not intelligent enough to realize the blatant problems in-front of them.
Like i am the only enemy of incompetence in these forums because the people that cant see the problems attack me and those who can, choose to ignore them because they know their voice will not have consequences.
My friends- some of the best players in the world- insist every day that i am wasting my time by thinking that incompetence, ineptitude and ignorance can be erased from the dev team, they try to convince me everyday to just stop caring like they have.
I do not want to leave this game to rot, i want it to be good again and better than ever.
When you think that there is only one possible solution, you neither understand the problem or the solution.
Seriously, you have been abrasive on the discussions here, and your own willingness to label people who are working on the game as incompetent, inept, and ignorant… and you expect them to drop EVERYTHING and respond to your post on something that the community probably covered extensively on their own.
You have made up your mind. You are not on these forums to discuss or debate. You’re here to browbeat and insult. Move on.
Neither does anyone else here, we’re all here (well most of us) because we love this game.
But why would blizzard listen to an incompetent, inept, ignorant child with delusions of granduer?
just because you constantly scream “i am da best” doesn’t make it true. Nor is it true for your supposedly “best in da world” friends. You seem to think that screaming these things at every opportunity is what makes your arguments right and your statements true.
While it is completely irrelevant. A player with godly skills could still be completely clueless about balance. A player with trash skills could have great insight and logic as to balance.
It all comes down to how you formulate your ideas & thoughts as well as if they make sense and are reasonable, and as it is, you are terrible at all this since all you do for the most part is scream about how you da best, making you look like an arrogant, clueless fool.
My intentions never have been to insult anyone, it just so happens that the truth is insulting, i feel insulted by it too.
And come on, did i not make a post some time ago literally called “LETS HAVE DEBATES WITH THE DEVS”?
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Wether an idea makes sense or is agreeable does not depend only on how the idea is formulated and communicated, it depends enormously on the experience that the listener has regarding such idea. My intentions by saying who i am were not to deviate the conversation and create a circus, but to make it easier for my readers to believe in my word, since i know most of them have zero experience with the topics i address in my posts.
Yeah i agree completely except in the cases in which i don’t.
Look chap we dont want to tell you what to do.
But please listen to other peoples advice. Right now you are doing the opposite of making a name for yourself. That is not good for everyone.
Just try to be constructive respectful and not passive aggressive and more down to earth because you act like you are all mighty without the knowledge proof or words to back it up.
Like banana said here
The more you sabotage yourself the less people will listen to your voice. This is also real life advice. Just try to be constructive respectful and more thoughtful. Right now I have to be honest with you, I dont believe anything you say. This is your credibility towards me at this moment
As already stated many times, you do that by giving us actual proof (video, in-game screen of your stats) and not by just writing down that you’re the “best in the world” because that is laughable at best.
But since you keep avoiding to give any proof, you’re just a troll.
Either there are two different people using the same account, or you are just being ignorant, incompetent, and just plain inept.
You don’t ‘debate’ the developers. This isn’t because they are infallable, but rather because they have access to a whole HOST of information that we don’t even have a close approximation of. The largest body of knowledge is the direct access to the servers they play on and the information they can glean from every match played. I have no doubt that they could tell us the cumulative damage a single ability from a single character across every game played in a certain time window, you can’t. They also have access to their own work, where they are not only developing new things, but attempting to streamline and enhance the existing characters in light of what’s coming and how things are supposed to be.
You, sir, haven’t even provided ANY proof other than you’re ‘the best’…
Finally, I want to apologize to the OP for having his wonderful post derailed by a troll into something it was never intended to be. We need more posters like him to be able to provide thoughtful things for the devs to see and read (like I know they do already, reading without posting) and also other posters like Karabars, KYX, and Hoku so we can keep a thoughtful and insightful conversation going for the devs to see what we’re thinking.
Loving the game doesn’t mean demeaning the people who work on it for a living.