Its a little annoying to me because it shows how devs are very able to come up with amazing talent trees. This tier has not been touched for years and still has 5 great talents.
Moshpit upgrade: fantastic talent if they haven’t countered mosh. Can easily end the game which is what 20 talents are for.
Stagedive upgrade: never picked it because i rarely go stagedive but thats a matter of preference and not a statement about this talent.
Storm shield: i mostly pick this i love shields and they can really keep your team safe long enough for you to get a moshpit.
Deathmetal: has single handily won games for me when mosh gets countered/when im getting blown up quickly. Great for when games are close and you’re the one dying first. Kind of like johanna’s shield talent.
Bolt of the storm: tp into cc is just great for higher level etc though im not skilled enough to pick. It also gets rid of etc’s weakness in that he no longer has his best cc combined with his escape/engage.
Anyways thoughts? This is why i like that they’re buffing underused talents and is one of the reasons that i love etc/ johanna (her talent tree is pretty good too).
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I suck as ETC but I am very happy that his 20 lvl tier is so flexiable and has 5 good talents.
On top of that - Storm Shield! Having this talent as tank is so hecking enjoyable for me. I wish more tanks/bruisers had this talent.
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One of the best if not the best 20 tier in the game. Also one of the classics with 5 options which is rare in modern HotS.
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Other hero with 5 talents at 20 lvl I know is Varian. I guess it’s because 3 of them are ult upgrades.
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Try thrall and only go earthquake. Its very viable except for against etc ironically. I dont think ive ever lost a game with thrall’s earthquake upgrade that gives 3-4 storm shields.
That’s one of main reasons why I pick Thrall sometimes.
45% HP SHIELD FOR ENTIRE TEAM!
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Dont think with bolt of the storm. Just use it mid combat even if it is to dodge a skillshot. After 20 every advantage helps
ETC’s 20s haven’t been touched because they’re fairly balanced for the most part.
Strong, flexible yet not entirely game breaking.
Being one of the few heroes with a base version of Storm Bolt/Storm Shield in the game I’d be sad to see them go, too.
Stage Dive upgrade is pretty fun though it can feel undertuned at times. In games where you actually take Stage Dive it can be very useful to tagging the entire enemy team with a slow and once in a while the cooldown reduction lets you use it twice in a single fight but yeah it’s not phenomenal like Death Metal or Storm Bolt+Mosh can be.
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Whenever my teammates tend to roleplay lemmings. I pick Storm shield.
I mostly pick the tour bus talent for that surprise mosh out of nowere.
I love Tour Bus as well. It is fun to pretend to miss the Mosh, only to skizzle on over and catch them all. My favorite Tour Bus moment was having a Zeratul blink when he saw the Mosh animation start up, but getting him anyway.
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I’ll always remember the day they added Death Metal. I thought it was the funniest and coolest talent idea ever.
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It is “easier” to make good or at least meaningful talent trees for tanks and healers because they are subject to more gameplay situations and are expected to be able to function under them to a certain degree for the most part.
Etc has the best level 20 talent tree. Everything has its use. The worst is deatg metal, but even that has a place.
Tour bus is great, the stage dive up grade is nice, bolt explains its self, so does storm sheild.
True, but there’s also some terrible level 20 trees: Zul’jin’s for example (only THREE talents, and its heavily weighted in favor of taking your ult talent). I think artanis’s could use a once over as well, as Plasma burn and Zealot charge don’t feel level 20 worth.