Any tips guys? I do play a pretty versatile range of heroes, all roles included, my favourite hero being li-ming which I have gotten really good at and almost always top hero damage, kills - MVP etc. But it seems to be a case of 2 steps forward, 3 steps back. I’ve been matched with good players tonight and a lot of horrendous ones. What tips other than just sticking it out, is there to escaping silver HL?
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I find taking frequent breaks to avoid playing with the same players over and over helps.
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Just run around Butchering everyone EZ
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I’m going to repost my “getting out of Pre-Platinum guide” that I wrote for another forum/community. I hope it is useful to you.
I’ve been leveling a smurf for the sole purpose of being able to play Cho’Gall with an amusingly inappropriate name. In doing so, I have been reminded how awful incredibly awful it is to labor away in the MMR Mines and I am here to share with you all some things I’ve learned/relearned:
The “Carry” role 100% exists in Pre-Platinum. Characters with consistent, high, and safe damage output will win games outright - especially if they have access to any form of scaling damage. Zagara, Raynor, and Zul’jin are practically gods here.
Raw siege/soak is an extremely viable tactic in Pre-Platinum. In Silver and below, team cohesion and map awareness are purely coincidental. By Gold, players have started to learn that there’s safety in numbers, but this often comes at the expense of soak and objective prioritization. Nine times out of ten, you can get away with pushing lanes for the entire match and the enemy team won’t know what’s happened to them until it’s too late.
“Just murder them” is also an extremely viable tactic in Pre-Platinum. They can’t earn XP if they’re dead, and it’s not like they’re going to be coordinated enough to handle you slaughtering them repeatedly.
Platinum is HOTS’s version of MMR Hell because of what players learn in Pre-Platnium. Pre-Platinum is all about using the enemy team’s inexperience against them: outmaneuvering your opponents in either micro (murder them) or macro (out-siege) is often more than enough to ensure victory. However, once you get to Platinum, you enter the population of players who have a pretty solid grasp of both and you have to start dealing with the concept of counterplay. Many players in Platinum are good enough to stay out of Gold, but not good enough to have an understanding of how or why they’re failing to advance.
Adept A.I. is actually incredibly good at mimicking the patterns of a middle-Gold player. The objective prioritization isn’t there, but many of the matches I played felt like legitimate vs AI games in terms of opponent action/reaction times.
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get better at shotcalling so you can improve your macro game. even in lower skill games, good macro can VERY easily win games.
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and play heroes with good macro (waveclear/camp clear/rotation/safety). Or whose teamfight is so good you can make it all up there (incl. deckard/whitemane)
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Learn the BASICS. Play a hero with wave clear, self sustain/ability to kite, being able to solo camps and most importantly kill several opponents before and during team fights.
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I think you also need to be lucky. Since it’s a draft mode you may not have the chance to draft said heroes.
Shot calling usually gets you reported. People just want to play their selected heroes draft advices and in game strategy calls are not welcomed by many players. Also pointing out mistakes results in reports.
I’m also in silver rank, %60+ win rate so far. I’m yet to see a single game where people actually listen to each other.
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I used Nazeebo to climb my way out of silver. Until he started falling short later ranks.
while i dont agree with this because it can put your team on tilt all by itself since you are basically missing all game. i do think that high wave clear heroes are extremely important. more so lower because of the lack of team awareness and map rotation.
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Li Ming is not the best choice to get out from any of the lower ranks. If you feel you re rly good with mages then there are better options for you, Guldan and Jaina are the most relaible.
Dont focus too much on fighting heroes. If you can soak a lane alone fast enough, do a camp alone and then go back to the lane again - thats what you should do I no one else does it for you.
Thats one of many reasons why Li Ming struggle in lower ranks, no one focus on whats needed to do. Guldan and Jaina does it faster.
If you re forced to pick support, try NOT to pick Morales/Ana/Lucio/Malf simply because the very same reason. If no one do the lanes nor the camps, then you cant cover up for it very well.
Rehgar are superior or Brightwing with bribes are a superb choice, Stukov and Kara are decent pick aswell.
If you play Sonya or Greymane, those are excellent picks for lower ranks.
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Try full W build Guldan with Darkness Within at lvl 16
omegaburst
omegawaveclear
omegaselfsustain
omegapoke
Q+E+D+W
I dont expect silvers to bother with interrupting channels, you should have fun 100-0 squishes or 100-50 tanks with full combo.
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Make sure to check other forum posts concerning the same issue. You’ll find some people realize that a forced 50% winrate exists and that makes it very difficult to climb ranks quickly, due to the system penalizing you for winning. In other words, it depends more on your luck with regards to who your teammates are in the match. Don’t put too much effort in, this game is never worth it.
Anyone that can double soak.
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The forced 50% win rate is pure down to basic statistics. When you are at a rank thats quite equal to your skills, even with the randomness between player skills, you are generaly going to average out your win rate.
This doesnt matter when the rank variation would be 500mmr-500mmr or 900-1100mmr. If you are at 1000mmr, you are going to bounce around near this zone as when you drop too much, you will start to make more win streaks. And when you rise you will start to lose more often. The problem with the skill randomness is caused by other things like for example the leaver MMR penalty (as this makes the gaps higher and by that less reliable).
Sure, its a forced 50% win rate. But thats exactly what an MMR system has to create. If it doesnt cause a 50% win rate, then the MMR system is doing a poor job, or you are at the exceptions in skill levels (bronze 4 or 5 or high GM).
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zzzz no it doesn’t. Flaming gets you reported, shotcalling is easily observably different. I shotcall in most ranked games and a lot of other ones, like 5% of the time some pathetic, depressed nerd will be like “please don’t try to shotcall” and in the rest I never hear from anyone, never banned out of 8,000 games so I see no reason to be afraid of shotcalling which will MEASURABLY improve your games the better you get at it (which includes understanding how shotcalling is not flaming and what the differences are)
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If you’re not playing with friends, it will be extremely possible you never get out of bronze/silver/gold. Blizzard’s MM is horrible and the system will ensure you always are 50-50. Meaning that once you start winning to much you will get paired with awful teammates but enemy players will be above your rank.
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The more your hero can do more of these at lower ranks, the better:
Out-kill them
Out-soak them
Out-merc them
When was the last time you have been to silver I wonder. Yes flaming is more likely to get you reported. However in a team that has at leas 2 clueless members shot calling has a potential to get you reported.
-Don’t contest for objective just soak. 2 of your team members goes and dies at objective. If you comment on these deaths you’ll be reported.
-Guys just soak don’t fight. One or two members of your team dies. Comment on that you’ll be reported.
-Don’t capture boss during curse, push. They go for boss. Comment on that you’ll be reported.
Yea maybe shotcalling doesn’t get you reported but you should also save your advices for yourself if they suck hard.
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No, this is how it works.
If you win too much, then you get paired up with more skilled players. In both teams.
And it turns out that YOU are the one that sukk too much, and thats the reason why you lose. End of win streak.
Please, if you keep on blame others, then I have nothing more to add.
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