This season I like to fill every role but my main tank is Johanna who is alway banned I got a lot of Arthas game under my belt but I struggle a lot with him lately, I either get busted down or my cc arenāt effective enough to protect my teamates. Tried ETC and Iām really bad with him lol.
Any decent tanks who are not too hard to learn you can suggest?
Muradin. He is relatively easy to play (donāt E in unless you are guaranteed a kill), durable, and has a healthy talent tree. He is also not all that popular, so you wonāt find him picked or banned out from under you. You will want to practice the timing on his trait, so you never have to back for HP, and you will need to land his Q to be effective.
Outside of Johanna, he is probably the most reliable tank in the game, and can work with pretty much any comp on any map.
Donāt you think Muradin is better into physical damage than spell damage since he doesnāt get any spell armour in his talents until 20, gets block and slows down aaās? Not saying heās bad just he feels less optimal into spell damage heavy comps. Not saying itās right but I tend to pick him if I need to counter AAās or the team lacks camp clear/boss clear e.g. Battlefield of eternity for his level 4 q talent.
I wouldnāt say heās a tank you would be able to pick up immediately and be effective but I personally learned and got better at tanking when I played a lot of Diablo.
You will learn abilities and when to parry
If an orb is flying at your face you might wanna press W but if an silly autoattack you might want to save it
On top of that taunting at the right time learns you great coordination skills
Well sure, if I was going up against double-mage, I would draft Anubāarak or possibly Tyrael if we want to go a dive tank. However, I donāt think Anub or Tyrael are as ānoob friendlyā as Muradin. I do feel that Anub, Diablo, and Garrosh are better tanks, but they are more for people who intend to play tanks a lot, not as sort of a āOh crap, I have to tankā hero. I think Muradin is a bit safer to have as a safety net tank than other options. He is also far less team dependent than a hero like Taunt Varian.
If someone is new to tanking, and doesnāt plan to make a career out of it, Johanna (perma-ban) and Muradin are probably the best bets.
I feel AA Diablo is a good choice as well you can start with pretty simple stuff that will help you tank for your team such as if someone steps too close or onto your half of the lane E them over your head then q them into your team or a wall/towers. If thereās someone terrorising your backline behind you just e them over your head, Apocalypse to counter popular ults like mosh and anduins heal. You get your abilities back quick with aas so if you mess up you can get them back again.
On the other hand Muradin has a tricky skillshot for his main stun that can be intercepted by minions and if people are used to dealing damage and not tanking its easy to chase that li ming to the moon while your teams getting bodied behind you.
Donāt get me wrong, I love Dibbles as a tank, he is my 3rd most played tank. But the OP is looking for something easy to learn when he is called on to fill as a tank in draft. My concern is that you really have to devote some effort to learning Diablo, and he is far more likely to be banned or picked by the enemy team than Muradin. He is the second most popular tank in SL after Jo.
Since the OP indicated they do not want to invest too heavily in learning a new hero, and probably wonāt be playing them much, I was thinking more along the lines of a tank that is self-sufficient, easy to learn and play, and easy to pick back up if you havenāt played them in a bit. Muradin is probably the easiest all-around tank on the roster (after Jo), even though I donāt think he is the best tank in the game.
Edit: I should also note, if I recall correctly, the OP plays at Master rank, so the enemy team is more likely skilled enough to punish an average Diablo than an average Muradin.
I think Varian, I used to main Diablo but I got stressed out but playing Varian Taunt is so much easier IMO and less stressful.
I think Diablo has a high expectation cap, for example, I expect a Diablo that knows how to combo their abilities, especially when using his ult, just like how Jaina should combo her abilities.
I think with Varian Taunt, you go in, taunt, parry, soak a bit of damage, leave, repeat.
Muradin plays like an assasin so is easier for DPS to pick up, has a good general kit and overall I agree with Hoku BUT what I think you need to watch out for is that he can be a bit diffucult to master in terms of actual tanking.
Many times Iāve seen a mura trying to 1 v 1 an enemy backliner while our team now doesnāt have any sort of peel, no frontline and dies (Normally when no offtank).
arthas is amzing the problem is the ablities. everyone can teleport or block healing. most of the people who have trouble with him have no mana mangement and dont understand how to stay glued to people
As a āDiablo mainā, I donāt think heās a good choice, AA build or not. He is somewhat hard.
I think Mura and Johanna (and Taunt Varian) are easier.
Arthasā self sustain is not good. He has a bad engage, and also had bad peel. And he has the same ability for both peel and engage. W. So if he uses it to engage, he has no peel, if he saves it for peel he has no engage (And remember, itās bad even when he has it.) Plus itās a skill shot, so it can miss. And he has bad sustain, and no escape.
As you can see, he has the worse win rate of all the tanks in the game. Some tanks are below average in one category, but higher in others. Arthas is below average on everything.
Healing reduction is pretty rare. And itās always in late game talents. Likewise, not many characters have teleports.
If Arthas manages to get on top of someone (which is hard) and gets pushed away. He has no way to go back in. You canāt get in E range unless your opponeent lets you walk in on them.
I mean, even the Carbots cartoons make fun of it.
Thereās a reason Arthas is not picked. If he was good he would be used.
Mei is pretty simple to learn, her kit is mostly ranged and she has a lot of cc with enough damage and mobility to mess with the enemy (especially aa heroes).
Combining her abilities is sometimes the key to a won teamfight (like pushing the enemy into your w with your e so they canāt escape in time). There are some challenging talents to get used to, but there are also simple options like the aa build.
Definitely recommend her if you wanna try out a new tank.