Easy to learn tank?

This season I like to fill every role but my main tank is Johanna who is alway banned :expressionless: I got a lot of Arthas game under my belt but I struggle a lot with him lately, I either get busted down or my cc aren’t effective enough to protect my teamates. Tried ETC and I’m really bad with him lol.

Any decent tanks who are not too hard to learn you can suggest?

Muradin. He is relatively easy to play (don’t E in unless you are guaranteed a kill), durable, and has a healthy talent tree. He is also not all that popular, so you won’t find him picked or banned out from under you. You will want to practice the timing on his trait, so you never have to back for HP, and you will need to land his Q to be effective.

Outside of Johanna, he is probably the most reliable tank in the game, and can work with pretty much any comp on any map.

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Don’t you think Muradin is better into physical damage than spell damage since he doesn’t get any spell armour in his talents until 20, gets block and slows down aa’s? Not saying he’s bad just he feels less optimal into spell damage heavy comps. Not saying it’s right but I tend to pick him if I need to counter AA’s or the team lacks camp clear/boss clear e.g. Battlefield of eternity for his level 4 q talent.

I wouldn’t say he’s a tank you would be able to pick up immediately and be effective but I personally learned and got better at tanking when I played a lot of Diablo.

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Varian

You will learn abilities and when to parry
If an orb is flying at your face you might wanna press W but if an silly autoattack you might want to save it
On top of that taunting at the right time learns you great coordination skills

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Well sure, if I was going up against double-mage, I would draft Anub’arak or possibly Tyrael if we want to go a dive tank. However, I don’t think Anub or Tyrael are as ā€œnoob friendlyā€ as Muradin. I do feel that Anub, Diablo, and Garrosh are better tanks, but they are more for people who intend to play tanks a lot, not as sort of a ā€œOh crap, I have to tankā€ hero. I think Muradin is a bit safer to have as a safety net tank than other options. He is also far less team dependent than a hero like Taunt Varian.

If someone is new to tanking, and doesn’t plan to make a career out of it, Johanna (perma-ban) and Muradin are probably the best bets.

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I feel AA Diablo is a good choice as well you can start with pretty simple stuff that will help you tank for your team such as if someone steps too close or onto your half of the lane E them over your head then q them into your team or a wall/towers. If there’s someone terrorising your backline behind you just e them over your head, Apocalypse to counter popular ults like mosh and anduins heal. You get your abilities back quick with aas so if you mess up you can get them back again.

On the other hand Muradin has a tricky skillshot for his main stun that can be intercepted by minions and if people are used to dealing damage and not tanking its easy to chase that li ming to the moon while your teams getting bodied behind you.

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Don’t get me wrong, I love Dibbles as a tank, he is my 3rd most played tank. But the OP is looking for something easy to learn when he is called on to fill as a tank in draft. My concern is that you really have to devote some effort to learning Diablo, and he is far more likely to be banned or picked by the enemy team than Muradin. He is the second most popular tank in SL after Jo.

Since the OP indicated they do not want to invest too heavily in learning a new hero, and probably won’t be playing them much, I was thinking more along the lines of a tank that is self-sufficient, easy to learn and play, and easy to pick back up if you haven’t played them in a bit. Muradin is probably the easiest all-around tank on the roster (after Jo), even though I don’t think he is the best tank in the game.

Edit: I should also note, if I recall correctly, the OP plays at Master rank, so the enemy team is more likely skilled enough to punish an average Diablo than an average Muradin.

Fair enough all good points!

I think Varian, I used to main Diablo but I got stressed out but playing Varian Taunt is so much easier IMO and less stressful.

I think Diablo has a high expectation cap, for example, I expect a Diablo that knows how to combo their abilities, especially when using his ult, just like how Jaina should combo her abilities.

I think with Varian Taunt, you go in, taunt, parry, soak a bit of damage, leave, repeat.

Well, I would have said ETC. He’s the easiest tank to Engage or peel with.

Arthas is just about the worse tank in the game.

You could always try Stitches and see if you can land your Hooks.

You can always E out, wait for your trait to heal you, then re-engage. Reguardless of the damage type.

Muradin plays like an assasin so is easier for DPS to pick up, has a good general kit and overall I agree with Hoku BUT what I think you need to watch out for is that he can be a bit diffucult to master in terms of actual tanking.
Many times I’ve seen a mura trying to 1 v 1 an enemy backliner while our team now doesn’t have any sort of peel, no frontline and dies (Normally when no offtank).

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stiches is free kills. arty and imperius are always strong if you grab them.

arthas is amzing the problem is the ablities. everyone can teleport or block healing. most of the people who have trouble with him have no mana mangement and dont understand how to stay glued to people

Come to think of it, wouldnt that be any tank that has a ā€œdiveā€? Kinda learn my lesson with Blaze the hardway

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As a ā€œDiablo mainā€, I don’t think he’s a good choice, AA build or not. He is somewhat hard.
I think Mura and Johanna (and Taunt Varian) are easier.

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A tank needs two things to do its job.

  1. Self sustain
  2. An escape mechanism

A tank also has two jobs.

  1. Engage for team mates
  2. Peel for team mates

Arthas’ self sustain is not good. He has a bad engage, and also had bad peel. And he has the same ability for both peel and engage. W. So if he uses it to engage, he has no peel, if he saves it for peel he has no engage (And remember, it’s bad even when he has it.) Plus it’s a skill shot, so it can miss. And he has bad sustain, and no escape.

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As you can see, he has the worse win rate of all the tanks in the game. Some tanks are below average in one category, but higher in others. Arthas is below average on everything.

Healing reduction is pretty rare. And it’s always in late game talents. Likewise, not many characters have teleports.

If Arthas manages to get on top of someone (which is hard) and gets pushed away. He has no way to go back in. You can’t get in E range unless your opponeent lets you walk in on them.

I mean, even the Carbots cartoons make fun of it.

There’s a reason Arthas is not picked. If he was good he would be used.

Johanna or Mei. Both overall safe kits. Good CC, Insane sustain

Mei is pretty simple to learn, her kit is mostly ranged and she has a lot of cc with enough damage and mobility to mess with the enemy (especially aa heroes).

Combining her abilities is sometimes the key to a won teamfight (like pushing the enemy into your w with your e so they can’t escape in time). There are some challenging talents to get used to, but there are also simple options like the aa build.

Definitely recommend her if you wanna try out a new tank.

Taunt Varian is 100% still a bruiser.

Why? Where? I played him often in Masters with success and it has and had a nice winrate all the time, so why is it a Bruiser?

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