Okay, you’re right, Narha, Sami and Shadowmere my thread was a mistake. Sorry.
You are not funny.
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How can you balance being able to be in multiple places at once? Most heroes only can be at one place at a time. More extreme versions would be samuro who can have huge mobility while doing so or azmo who can wipe out a wave from afar without being there. Then we have another tier even higher than the last where these heroes have global or near global dominance in abathur and tlv.
When played perfectly TLV breaks the game and no one else can see how broken they are. Responses include along the lines of the fact players can’t play perfect like robots so there’s no point in discussing optimal gameplay, I should play tlv myself if they’re so “broken”, and that my opinion on TLV (and aba) is bunk. When you have a solo player who can not only cover both lanes in soak but also have a third piece moving around whether it’s to destroy the enemy wells, harass an abathur under a tower if they’re not positioned well, and/or help other lanes or teammates to clear a camp, that’s just too much power to one player. The whole tradeoff is that it takes skill to “perfectly” do all these things but if we go by their performance and value at perfect play, they’re just broken.
At least murky can only be in one place (he’s trash tier as a hero). Just get one player to solely focus murky and he’s nothing until level 10. Even after he takes his stun ult he’s still not that good until 20 when death timers get so high and that he can suicide and go 1-1 and that’s a win in most cases for the team with murky. Now you have tlv who can be in 3 places, have a full restore with their ult, and give much more value than murky can.
Macro heroes are disgusting since structures are weak already. TLV and abathur still reign at the top of the food chain. Bar an extremely OP fotm hero that the devs will obviously nerf next patch, you should be picking tlv or aba assuming you or your teammates are good even in solo queue. If your teammates are too poor to take advantage with when you’re abathur then it’s likely you would have lost anyway on another hero.
I don’t know whether the Vikings will need nerf or not, right now.
However take this in.
The Lost Vikings and Abathur has no hard counters.
More so they have “soft counters” and have absolutely no hard counters.
Agreed. Why punish the 25 TLV mains with any kind of nerfs? I’d prefer to see changes to their talents that @Zare has been suggesting for the past year. I’m not saying I want them exactly as he suggested, but they could do with some minor tweaks and Longboat Ride needs an overhaul.
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