Common sense vs Heroesprofile

Commen sense:
What rank are you?
What hero are you good with?
What hero dominates?
So who should you ban?

Heroesprofile
LOOK AT THIS AMAZING MURKY WINRATE!! HE IS A MUST PICK

Commen sense:
Anduin is a great counter to butcher

Heroesprofile:
ANDUIN SUCKS!!!

Commen sense:
I have a teammate who prepicks Stitches with 85% winrate this season over 20 matches

Heroesprofile:
STITCHES BAAAAD!!! DONT LET TAKE HIM, FLAME HIM IF YOU SHOULD

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Ok.

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Oh my… This is just too painfully accurate xD !

How did you not included azmodan somewhere along that or nova ?!

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I used actual statistics, honestly dont ask me where azmo is on that list

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Stat tracker websites should be used as the basis for debates over balance, as they give us a clearer overall picture of how each hero is doing.

Stat tracker websites are also useful if you’re trying to gauge whether a hero is any good if you aren’t thoroughly experienced with them.
For example, do not pick Genji in Ranked if you are not very skilled with him. You will almost certainly drag your teammates down.

But stat tracker websites cannot cater to each individual person or team composition to say “you should/should not play X hero!” Skill levels vary by player, compositions vary by draft, even the individual performance of the same person can vary, etc. Stat trackers paint in broader and more general strokes than that.
Tassadar having a ~43-44% overall winrate in SL does not mean DrLogan should not play him in Ranked, but I’d certainly rather not have some average Joe on my team picking him.

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Heroesprofile is made for insecure people. They forget about a good draft and want to look at in game stats. But trust a 3th party website maybe 5% of the people use. Thats the pov of OP

Besides there is a big diffirence between NA and EU. The high masters ins NA are high diamonds in EU if you look skill wise.

The leaderboard of heroesprofile is a meme. Try to look any of them up in the gm leaderboard.

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Common not commen

Just saying, i’m not usually a grammar nitpicker but this one bugged me for some reason

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Yeah, that’s kinda what I said. They can’t tell you what to draft in what situation, and especially not for each individual person, so don’t use it for that. Instead, use it to judge balance and to decide whether its worth it to draft a particular hero if you have little or no experience with them.

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Masters

Johanna, Auriel, Anduin, Diablo

Garosh

Garosh

NANI

Si

:o

Stitchesmetapick.exe

FAT MAN BAD

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I know I forgot to like your comment :stuck_out_tongue:

Probably THE most sensable post thus far on this forum.
Appart from the Forumsyntax post ofcourse.
Thanks for that btw Sami

Even had to argue over why convection made more value over the damn shield talent for KT awhile back.
Where people started arguing over heroesprofile and bloody trying to calculate pure math into it.
Got several comments saying that 200dmg was nothing.
200dmg is seriously like the baseline of Flamestrike.

In the end i was smacking my head so hard i had to stop before my face looked like spongebobs.

Arguing with silvers/golds who uses Heroesprofile and a wornout calculator, calculating out everything BUT the important parts like time and zonings potentials.

You make browsing the forum a joy Harbinger.

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He isnt fat. He got big bones!

I thought this was a link :sweat_smile:
That argument was painful to read btw.
Imo conv is not a good talent compared to the alternatives

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this is exactly why people keep pushing for the devs to release a public API for the game. Would make any sort of discussion or debate easier because the information would be 100% accurate and we wouldn’t have to put up with those “OH YEA BUT I BET THAT WEBSITE ISN’T 100% ACCURATE SO I GUESS MY ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE REIGNS SUPREME” garbage we’ve been getting on the forums lately.

It’s 100% true that people forget the point of using general stats is to show general trends. Individual skill always exists so someone might be especially skilled with certain heroes in comparison to their rank. However a big problem as of late is people thinking their anecdotal evidence is enough to draw grand conclusions about the entire game (or even their entire skill bracket) and it’s becoming quite annoying. Which sucks because all it would take is a PUBLIC API to be released (I will shill for one until we get it).

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Yes :star_struck: I want this. But also with talents and maps

Terrible sorry I thought I replied, sorry I had a almost 50 hour work week because of both my coworkers were sick and really tired (and cranky) and got caught the more negative replies

But yeah that argument I was agreeing with you and I agree that it was painfull to read.
But thank you mean a lot :smiley: , always happy to see a reply from you too!

A public API for the game would theoretically allow us to access almost any data the devs can also access (minus some things they’d naturally restrict of course, which is fine) which includes talents and maps. It would keep the devs and the players in lockstep in regards to access to information which is nothing but a good thing. Also as a side note, I don’t like having to use things like HOTSLOG or HEROESPROFILE because they rely on players actually uploading replays and such while a public API would have everything logged regardless.

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I had hotslogs. But I found out I found the most basic site more usefull when I was stuck in draft
Heroescounters.comjust look at what are voted up in maps. There are many flaws but it is pretty usefull in solo queue if I have no clue who to pick

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ITT people who reject basic science.

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So you rather trust a computer who produces stasltistics from what 5% the player base then in game stats?

NOt what I said or implied at all, just find it funny how you are basically downplaying actual statistics vs nothing at all, and generalizing people’s inability to rationalize statistics as commonality.

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K buddy