Why did you have to invent such a crappy update??? Just change her back it sucks now
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i just recent played her and confirm is obsolete at least fix that 20 hit quest or make it 15 it sucks at least until lvl 13 =S
It could have been a lot better. It didn’t address her fail hard situations and it didn’t address her inconsistencies and underperforming talents. But overall it was a buff, which she needed. If the choice was absolutely nothing ever again, or this, I’m happy they did something. I like the default dings. I do feel bad for owl and Trueshot though.
Was it?
The only thing that got buffed was low level sustain healing since Moonlit Arrows turned to level 1 talent. Losing baseline Pierce owl, and auto attack range, and a massive nerf to personal attack damage (and therefore nerfing Elune’s Chosen)…
I disagree that it was “overall a buff.”
You can disagree with someone without resorting to personal attacks you know 
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I actually do not know that
I disagree, you bouncyboi you 
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Ugh, I hate smart, intellectually honest people with a sharp wit and a deep knowledge base on many topics. Smh just get stupid already honestly
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I don’t think Tyrande is stronger, but way more stable.
I also think her builds are abit more open now.
But her Mythic quest completly missed the mark.
Even reducing it’s requirement won’t really fix it, as you don’t really want to spam your stun in any way.
Imo they should have probably made like a healing version of Jaina’s iceblock quest, or they should have made her owl be her quest stacker.
But turning her stun into a spam requirement just isn’t what is needed.
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Strangest part is, muradin’s basekit Q quest was changed a while back for this exact reason.
IMO this kind of quest can be nice, but on an assassin, not a healer.
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Think so too, but even on an assassin it isn’t all that sensible, although more sensible.
Few people have the integrity to admit mistakes and revert. A bad company like this is highly unlikely to.
I like some of the rework, I don’t even mind the dings on E because it gives you something to do and sitting around waiting on your tank to engage so you can E can have you holding E for a really long time - at least in SoloQ, unless it’s obvious like a Varian.
I don’t like that the level 1 owl talent is really bad now.
I also don’t like the unnecessary nerfs and the weakness of her ults
I really do not know what to think about her and I have not played Tyrande enough to really do any sort of comparison.
It did get me into playing her again, but looking at it from the point of an outsider, the Mythic just feels…clunky I guess. Like it does not quite suite her, but it isn’t so horrid that I feel like it is worthless. Just fits in the “eh” mindset if you catch my drift.
I think the removal of Trueshot’s passive AA bonus annoys me more than anything with her. It gave her a bit of teeth to at least fend off bots in my neck of the woods, now I have to rely on throwing Lunar Lamp posts it seems so far.
Above Adept it can be hard to land Lunar Flare as bots will instantly dodge if not cced first or their health is low enough they’ll ignore/walk into it when retreating. I have yet to finish it, most I have gotten is something like 28 stacks.
I am kinda suffering from KTZ syndrome with her. I have to “lead” the bots in order to land hits above adept, but A.I below adept can be harder to predict as they kinda just move all over the place and/or ignore it.
One thing I do like is she can chew up Sgt. Hammer A.I pretty good.
Tyrande has a long and wild history and owl quest used to be a thing (it was also baseline?). People hated it as it diminished a player’s flexibility to use owl as.. you know…a scouting tool. Players would just shoot people point blank in the face with owls just to get stacks up.
Completely agree. Stun should be saved for the “correct” time, not just off cooldown.
A quest based on landing Auto Attacks maybe?
Honestly, i’d say anything besides her stun.
But there are already alot of heroes with AA quests, i think they should make her quest more Unique than that.
I don’t mind the Owl being the quest stil, it’s something you usually spam anyways, and the quests are usually “Guidelines” as to how to play the hero, and spamming owl makes sense as you want to use it in combat for the cooldown reduction almost always on CD and you usually wanna spam scout during the game.
They could make the owl quest gain points for going through bushes/vents. You get a little more if you find someone. You get a little less or none if you hit heroes point-blank.
Probably factor in distance from heroes and if players are only trying to hit as many vents as possible in one shot, but things like sniffing out the boss and where missing heroes are should be rewarded.