Bwing needs a buff

Personally I’d like the one where it adds a heal to D if you cleanse an effect (then replace that lvl 7 talent)… she lacks safe burst heal, but since it’s skill based you have to put effort into landing it.

Also D cd is way too long. Cleanse and anduin pull are way better* yet have equal or lesser cooldowns.

*unless you are playing a ktz that lands his root combo or a jaina that lands her root ult

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They could change it to 60 seconds, and the cooldown is increased by 10 per each Hero cleansed.

Off-topic, but are you that same YoloBaggins that was playing Lucio in Unranked?

It’s almost like she was designed that way…
Should we give Uther cheaper and better aoe/sustain heal while we’re at it?

If you want to “burst heal” as brightwing, take blink heal?

She doesn’t stick out as having a super bad winrate.

I dunno why she would justify a buff—much less a buff that addresses one of the designed weaknesses of her healing.

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She’s got a high enough winrate that its not going to happen. They have other priorities rn

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Not today. Yesterday i think i played him once

BW is a hero with global mobility. Blizzard weakens her wave clear and I do not like it very much.

Against Lunara and Kerrigan, yes?

Hey mate, I personally don’t think BW needs a buff.

There are only 2 healers in hots with a hard difficulty lvl - Ana and BW (if my memory is right, feel free to check for yourself) so it is expected that you’ll need some practice with her in order to do well.

Personally BW is my highest lvl hero with a highest win rate (not taking into consideration heroes I barely played). Not only she is capable of a decent amount of healing, as long as you pick Blink, she also brings a lot of utility to the table.

Couple of tips:
1. Try her out with Blink, it’s a great way to add to her healing ability and it provides you with an escape option if things went wrong.
2. Try to go for Z talents at lvl 1 and 7. It will lower your cd and later will provide shield and vision for you and your teammate.
3. At lvl 4 choose your talent based on situation. Does the other team have a lot of cc?? If yes go Magic Spit, otherwise I prefer to go for Unstable Anomaly.
4. At lvl 16 all the talents are good enough depending on your situation.
I go with Hush! if I have someone like Anduin with Salvation ult in the opposite team to make sure that even if my Polymorph is not available I can still silence her.
Stasis if they have someone like Kael with a Pyroblast as his ult.
If there is no special occasion I go with W talent (forgot the name :stuck_out_tongue: )

Hope you’ll give her another shot and it will turn out more fun :slight_smile:

Cheers!

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I don’t like the Active part of her trait much but otherwise she is great.

She’s fine. L2p issue

BW is definitely fine and works well in the right comps:

Double healer comp.
Blow up comp with poly resets (this is actually really amazing, I’ve had games with 4-5 poly resets lol).
Big maps where you need that split power.
Comps you need more sustained healing than actually big burst protection.
Comp with a big burst protection like medivh, zarya, blaze, tyrael.

She’s also amazing against dive because of point and click silence.

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BW is in kind of a weird place.

Less burst heal than most healers and less AoE heal than most as well. But more CC on a short cd. I can understand why you don’t see her at high levels. She can’t deal with high burst and some poke still overload her healing output.

I agree than Soothing Mist could be decreased from 100 to maybe 80 seconds. It is a powerful tool, but it has some weaknesses.

  • It is AoE, but it isn’t instant!

  • It isn’t Cleanse, so it doesn’t grant Unstoppable.

  • It doesn’t heal.

I think 80 seconds cd would be ok here. However, it is the way how I would buff her!

I definitely don’t think BW needs burst heal. If you need burst heal, you can pick Uther, Alex of Rehgar. If you picked BW against multiple burst heroes, than it was your mistake!
If you need more healing, go Hyper Shift + Q build + Blink heal (but you need some practice to hit as many enemies with the center of Arcane Flare as possible). Additionally she has another tool how she can save you from burst - Spell Armor.

also kharazim since he is a diver melee helaer is strange because enemy team almost always focus the healer and he can became pretty squishier fast

She has not been seen in pro play (even offline tournaments) since beta.

Bwing is a pub stomper, relies on no one punishing you for her Z or blink heal. Any coordinated team with half a brain will set up a CC chain when they see her Z animation (effectively forcing her to use her burst heal purely out of combat- or the back line on low hp targets that get minimum value from her Z).

Also global heroes typically become pub stompers because you can control the flow of XP in the game and be on opposite sides of the map within an instant (once again a playstyle that needs to be shut down with coordination)

I love her, she’s one of my most played heroes, but I am in plat level so of course I can get away with playing her (just like I can get away with playing azmodan who is also a pubstomper hardly ever seen in high levels). Try that in Diamond, master or a tournament and see what happens.

46% WR in masters.

Giving her D a buff won’t affect low level play much since the players themselves rarely use it anyways.

She is the only support i enjoy playing. I might enjoy ana and stukov too but brightwing is amazing because a well timed polymorph can delete an enemy from the battlefield reliably. Regarding the topic at hand: I’d rather they dont buff her i dont want her to see nerfs in the near future.

Buffs or nerfs, i’ll still ban her when playing Yrel.

Brightwing using polymorph is like an std that cannot heal.

She was used a lot in 2017 with the double support meta. She was drafted almost all the time in HGC. Then when Blizzard nerfed double support, she fell off the meta. Then they reworked her and she’s seen some play in 2018, especially by HeroesHearth.

I’ll always remember the game they went triple reset comp, BW (with poly at 1), Ming and Genji. Was such a good game. They also used her in some double sup comps.

sub 10% popularity in master league over the past month. 2% popularity in pro games with a 38% winrate since the Lucio rework. Her rework was supposed to make her a strong hero. On paper, having baked in anti-dive via polymorph and % healing in her Z sounds amazing. However one of the big issues is that her core healing is just so low.

An easy way to solve this would be to lower some of her cooldowns and maybe provide a small bump to her overall healing. it’s not like she’s complete, horrific garabge. she just needs a tune up.

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