Let’s be honest, most players are not using the report feature fairly or accurately in HOTS. There’s plenty of examples where one player keeps spamming to report someone for a variety of reasons that are not justified. I feel bad for the players being reported unfairly and I also feel bad if Blizzard has to sift through a lot of fradulent reports.
A good example occurred today. Right before the laning began, all 4 teammates said they were reporting me in ARAM because I picked Nova over a healer before the game even started. At first they said swear words to me and were sitting at base/playing passive to forcibly lose quickly, which in itself should be bannable/suspendable. I just defended my pick, kept telling em it was winnable and kept playing.
It was clear even with the healer the enemies had, they weren’t that good…we were winning (when my teammates stopped crying/sitting in base doing nothing). I made it clear I was not going to just sit back and let enemies win from the beginning despite their junk threats of reporting me.
Every time I pinged b/c someone was being foolish, like a Deathwing who continued fighting with 5-10% life when he easily could have backed and healed up, they just made it clear they hated me. Pinged em to retreat when it was 5v4, nope, they all stayed in, wiped and blamed me. It ended up being 35-21 in our favor, we didn’t even lose a fort IIRC.
What can be done about this? The only real solution is for Blizzard to just remove the report feature from this game. The community is too toxic to report players responsibly. I shouldn’t have to be threatened with reports for playing by the rules of the game. I get these players were okay and not that good, they probably never won w/o a healer before, but that’s no excuse to spam me/verbally abuse me. I let them know that at the end also.
Did you report them just because that one player spammed it? No? Then why do you think anybody else did?
So we can conclude that you were eminently reasonable the whole time, and that the people who refused to play and continually wiped and were foolish and making stupid decisions were somehow still better than the opposing team. That’s kind of refreshing. Usually the opposing team is full of perfectly coordinated geniuses while the complainer in these kinds of threads is stuck with potatoes.
Have you been banned for the putative reports? Has Blizzard taken away your account?
Just to reiterate, the TLDR is that 4 people verbally abused me/reported me (for not picking a healer in ARAM) before the game even started. I defended my choice, somewhat carried them with Nova and we stomped the enemy team. The whole time my teammates were:
A) Verbally abusive
B) Stubbornly pretending I ruined their life by not picking a healer
C) Wiling to report for an invalid reason
D) In denial about my Nova resulting in a smooth win w/o a healer
E) Unwilling to admit they were wrong after an easy win
In what reality should the players with the above qualities be in charge of reporting others? They are the equivalent of a person who comes into my business making a ruckus and threatening others just doing their job. Imagine if they could act belligerent and throw me out instead though? That’s what them having a report feature is.
Please Blizzard, take the report feature out of this game! The playerbase has proven to be unworthy to use it and mild mannered/innocent players like myself are being abused by it. Stop letting toxic entitled brat children report legitimate players. Stop wasting your time reading their lies.
Yeah no. I do think false reports should have a punishment. I also would support when players are grouped their reports only count as a single report to prevent groups unfairly holding power over solo players.
This is assuming they leave the system pretty much automated. If reports were checked more carefully there would few issues with the system. Outright removing the report system would just enable those players who enjoy to grief games through AFK or Intentionally Dying.
That’s true when it comes to in game text chat as the other 5 players can’t report (they can but it’s ignored) for chat offenses. The other five players can issue reports for AFK or Intentionally Dying.
No no, the report system needs to stay, just not in its current state. It needs to be monitored so that accounts can be reviewed before actions are taken.
So for example, right before a suspension is put on an account, a human person should be responsible for reviewing the account and the list of reports in order to verify the reports are valid. If any reports are not valid, the user who reported should be notified that their report wasn’t valid and that falsely reporting players can lead to actions taken on their own account. Appeals should work the same way and the reason for the ban/suspension should be disclosed to the user. This also helps them understand what exact behavior to change.
This is assuming they have a dedicated customer support team. That’s obviously not going to happen due to the current state of Blizzard, but that’s what I think an honest report system should be. Reporting someone and having a notification sent back to your email telling you that it wasn’t a valid report and informing you that false reports can lead to something being done to your account would deter players from false reporting.
No, but 4 out of 5 is majority. Unless the enemy reports you, which is extremely rare.
The OP declares that the ‘majority’ of players misuse the report system; in the given example the majority of players are not reporting. While any myriad of players can report differently from one game to the next, I’m pointing out the means they’re trying to conclude their claim doesn’t work.
Anyone could go by the idium “one bad apple spoils the bunch” and go by small extremes being the issue, but instead, people tend to assume some sort of “majority” that doesn’t exist to be an issue and then act because they think it some vast group that outnumbers the ‘normal’ as the issue.
Reporting is geared towards weaker, lazier minds. They gravitate towards the concept of appealing to authority. They then can rely on emotion to make decisions and exert less effort to deal with inconveniences they feel are incompatible with their “reality”. The end is always the same–reporting to the point of ridiculousness.
Threats need to be addressed, but otherwise, all baseless reports should result in punishment of the reporting party. Thankfully, we have an AI monitoring the system, so no progress will occur.
So are people weak minded if they make a valid report or what do you mean ? Your post does not add up.
I get that you tell people with weak emotions will report no matter what but what if the report is 100% valid. Is he then still weak or what ? Other than that you are currect in most of what you say.
Well yes, but that doesn’t mean the enemy team don’t misuse the report system. The reason I’m focusing on the 5 as a denominator instead of 10, is because we do not know whether or not they do misuse the report system due to team chat literally being team chat only. Because of that, there’s no way to confirm besides using replays (assuming you can see the enemy chat when watching a replay but I don’t know if that’s how it works)… And honestly, who would watch a replay to see if the enemy team reports? Probably no one.
We only know of the 5 players on our team and what they say, we cannot see what the enemy team types to each other. That’s why its 4/5. In his case, 4/5 of the players misused the report system.
Now are you always going to have 4 players report you unjustly? Probably not, at least I hope not… but since the other 5 are undefined, they can’t be taken as a definite ‘no’ when it comes to whether or not they report. You can’t add that to the statistic because you honestly don’t know.
That is the basis for both played sides. From the information we have, we don’t know if someone actually reported; therefore there isn’t a certain positive that they ‘abused’ the report. Unless someone watches a vod of each person to see the report, someone just typing in chat they they so reported a person does not mean that they did.
Of the people that do report, some are more likely to report for multiple things, but the means described are only conjecture and that conjecture tends to come from filtering out relevant possibilities in favor of creating a fake ‘majority’.
It’s unlikely that there’s some specific quantified limit that will magically cause action to be taken to change the system so trying to force some presumption of ‘majority’ is irrelevant to the extent of how problematic the abuse can be
Well, some do say they reported, but I guess yeah since we don’t really know for sure, it could be any of the 11 possible fractions. Perhaps the real answer of the percentage of players who misuse the report system would be revealed through surveys… except people can lie on surveys anyway… so whatever lol.
