High skill should = high reward, it’s true and it’s great that people are being rewarded for being mechanically strong imo
but he’s so unfun to play against, it’s so stressful playing a tank/melee hero, I don’t know how to even engage in to it because if I get stunned by their tank/anyone else their Kel’thuzad will follow up and I’m insta dead, most cleanses are on such a long cd too, I take spell armour too and I just die through it most of the time
The best way to counter is either ensure macro play and prevent him from questing or kill him far more times to prevent him from getting value. Former better than latter because he’s more or less a half hero prequest
I love being Samuro against him, atleast. You might provide him more stacks with illusions, but you can remove his chains and roots by casting Illusions or swapping to illusions and can easily hunt him down.
But yeah, Kel’Thuzad can be quite a pain when a really skilled one is playing him.
yes, he’s extremely annoying.
Hes countered by killing him 
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What i hate the most about ktz is when you do a great job at dodging him and seperating from your team to avoid getting chained to someone and some idiot does stay still all the time.
It really makes it a 6v4 or even worse depending on the potatoes.
If you play something melee juking everything for your life is your destiny.
Which tanks do you play? I find that damage reduction talents work very well against him, and since he hates dives, once his chains are on CD, he can be an easy kill.
You need to rush him when he’s open. KTZ is fun to play as, but he relies greatly on his combo clutch abilities. If he misses any of those, he’s down and opened for the duration of his cooldowns. So to naturally counter him, keep moving and move around his sides. KTZ players prefer linear heroes in the front that they can chain initially.
Him and Hammer are two heroes I think are poorly designed.
There are other combo heroes, but none of them rely on their combos so very much, nor do they have such range, nor disable your ability to move for so long.
It’s easier to deal with him if you know how, but that doesn’t make it less frustrating.
A good one is oppressive, while a bad one is pretty useless.
He’s a high skill floor hero due to the aiming of Chains, with not much of a skill ceiling above that.
People throw a chain, and if it pulls they dump all of their abilities in the same spot, there isn’t all that much more to the hero.
And when people don’t know how to deal with him…
They see an ice spike, and they don’t try to zig-zag from it they go to investigate.
When your allies are bad, it’s like being down 2 allies at all times and you can’t easily punish it since he has range unlike Kerrigan and Alarak, who by the way need to wait until your allies are more clumped before their combos will cause equivalent damage to multiple heroes.
Yeup. I do. His chain mechanic is just unbearably stupid annoying and random.
key to playing melee against ktz is to stay on him. Chase him away from your allies and his chain will be out of range for peeling you off of him, unless he uses his spike which has a bit of a long cooldown and will result in half damage. Johanna is a monster to play against.
name a hero that’s “fun” to play against when it’s a good player playing him. give a name of a hero that you don’t struggle against if the enemy player is skilled please. if you want to “have fun” and not deal with real players who are better than you and more skilled then vs AI exists.
the only thing I hate about him is when there’s some kind of gathering objective, like the seed/tribute, and he’s able to constantly do his ult on people trying to get it, lol.
complaining about the chain is silly though. it’s not easy to pull those off, you have to do 2 good skillshots in a row basically.
the problem is he’s “hating it” cause the enemy player is playing well. that’s like asking to make the hero useless so he doesn’t need to actually use his brain and not stand still and take the chain then die by the combo… i guess it’s so hard for some people to use their brains nowadays.
Yes, I love when they think “oh, Samuro, just more free stacks”.
if the kelthuzad blows his entire combo to kill the tank, enemy back line should be free to 1v5 his team.
as an aram player i prefer fighting KTZ than Ming.
KTZ rewards huge skill with huge dmg.
Ming rewards spam with huge dmg.
so its not often that a decent KTZ comes along that absolutely murders everyone in the aram,
but the number of games ruined by being against a ming is…
pretty much every game against a ming.
I’m actually new to the game and looking for advice, but thank you for acting superior and patronising me/saying I have no brain. I hope it makes you feel good.
Thanks to everyone who commented advice, I will see what I can do against him tonight 
i don’t see that anywhere in your post. you’re just making a thread of complaining about the hero being “strong” in the hands of a good player lol did you even know that every single hero in the game is amazing when the player is good at playing him? where’s you asking for advice in your thread? you’re not asking for advice you’re just complaining that he’s better than you. not asking for advice