Anti-social behavior of the majority of the playerbase

You have to spend too much time on this forum in order to gain the elite status of TL3 in order to be able to post pictures.

It’s a hurdle to get through. I did it on accident because… I spend too much time here.

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Is that why I keep seeing the same people comment on threads with useless nonsense? Commenting on the title without actually reading the post?

Lol it’s possible. Ive never thought of it though.

That… sounds like way too much hassle lmao. But I feel you. I visit this forums a lot during Online School. Threads like this is a primary source of entertainment during Religious Studies.

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majority of these type of players are true.
most common ones is players who rant about numbers (stats).
and the other common one is when players are not very hungry to win games.

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Extensive Guide to Forum Syntax
ToC for ‘How to picture…’ there.

Even without trust lvl 3, there are whitelisted sites that can be used for posting images. Over at Memes of the Storm - #2962 by Rafaelfras-1457 you can find examples of pics linked from reddit.

i usually use <img src=[http://sampleurl.linktopic.format> w/ optional <height =[value]. i usually post screen caps ported to imgur, others use discord links, and there’s probably other options too.

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Most of what you list is either just people having a bad game/day or coordination failure. It’s not really “anti-social” because there’s nothing natural about trusting anonymous strangers. The trust levels only go up when a rank becomes a reliable indicator of general competence.

tanks should shot call if someone playin mei they expect to the start the team off with lockdown CC THROWING ur ult out randomly and having it miss then blaming mei for doing what she does is just stupid

i always hold my ult until someone g ets dived on or my tank dives on someone

I’m this guy 100%.

I don’t care if something is wrong the on the team. Because there is ALWAYS something wrong on the team. In bigger or smaller ways. Why should I care? I don’t expect my team to be full of pros that never makes mistakes.
I accept that they might suck or take stupid talents or whatever. It happens. I can’t help them. Making comments after they fail is just going to aggravate them. Rather, being cheerful, saying stuff like “Oh damn, you almost had him”, “Oh bloody hell, that guy was so lucky, eh Zuljin?” is a thousand times more productive and useful than just saying nothing and even more so than saying something annoying. Like, “Jeez, Zuljin, dead again, big surprise!”

I’ve had plenty of games where we’ve been 4 levels down but managed to turn it around later by not giving in to despair.

I’ve tried games where one player is “gg, we lost by matchmaking, nothing we can do” at the very beginning before gates are opened and I say “Nonsense, we can totally win this!” and then we win by a massive landslide (where stuff happened that ended up in a hots highlight vid)

I’ve had plenty of times where people start going “gg, game over” and they go afking, but when I tell them that we can still win, that we just need some later talents or one good team fight, they rejoin the fight and we turn it around.

We’re not necessarily oblivious to their mental state. But the purpose of a cheerleader is to be cheerful and to spread cheer when the others are full of gloom, as gloom and doom feelings is detrimental to playing well, whereas being cheerful makes you excel.

I have yet to try triggering anyone by being cheerful, though.

I usually don’t play much SL though where people are extremely much more arrogant, obnoxious and downright clueless, though.


On the overall topic at large, Blizzard hasn’t really helped. You get reported and banned for simply being talkative. A lot of players just outright disable all chat so sometimes you’re trying to be talkative or something but absolutely no response so you have no idea if people are listening or not and you’ve no idea if they’re just not reading chat or if they disabled chat.

Then there’s the fact that if you do get banned, then in the appeal for the ban, Blizzard will use anything you’ve said out of context as proof to keep you banned. Even things that was 100% just compliments to other people, because “Gj Maiev” can look like an insult to the cynical mind who is looking for faults in you.

But yeah there’s a considerable difference to online games and how people behave in real life. If we were to compare a HotS match with a basketball match IRL between people who know eachother and there’d be a huge difference. Nearly everyone would be somewhat of a “cheerleader” – it’s normal in sports and such to say things like “Don’t worry about missing, score the next time” “We’ll get back at them right away! Don’t worry about letting that guy score!”. Imagine if they were instead acting like people do online…


Playing mostly QM and ARAM you don’t get really get to identify players personalities much. Most people are quite quiet in EU-QM…

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I get why people spam pings. 95% of the player base ignores them. Seems you gotta time out your pings to have a 50/50 chance of 1 player responding.

But yeah this post was pretty funny.

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You must not play with very skilled opponents if you came back from a 4 level deficit… Games like that are usually a stomp that ends after 10-12 min. But then again, you don’t play SL… so not very surprising.

I don’t like cheerleaders because they seem very fake (not genuine) to me.

It was meant to be funny yet serious and true. But overall, communication is NOT a strong skill of the overall HotS community.

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Yea it was way better back in the 1500

This generation of players is very bad.

Let me waste my time writing a 50 000 words essay based on generalisation and biaised perception

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I agree. The anti-social behavior is a huge problem and probably won’t be fixed unless something more concerning happens.

Dunno why but this is kinda me. But HEY. Don’t get the wrong idea. I AM aware that there is something wrong on the team. But raging on the team only causes things to be worse.

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I am often anti social on the forum and I appologise :smile:

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Sure. That’s your own business.

But being a “cheerleader”-type makes me win games that would be lost if I wasn’t. So whatever.

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I am often quite amazed how cool the HOTS community is to be honest. Compared to other games and other communities, I’ve had a lot of great moments in HOTS with random players. They outweigh the negative ones by far (maybe because i can easily ignore toxic players).

The way we act towards our teammates influences their performance and this influences our very own winrate. Some players are not familiar with this concept it seems.
Most players will not play better when they get flamed or insulted - most likely they play worse. I experienced a lot more toxicity in low MMR matches so I am convinced that some players can’t rank up because they act toxic and sabotage their own team like that. Just make a smurf account and play with some bronze players - you get trash talked so much, you really see why they are bronze players…

I often keep my thoughts for myself during a match because my feedback will not help me win the game. I only say stuff that will help me win the game when i am in tryhard mode. Giving helpful input before the bad things happen is the key.

I also experienced some weird type of players who perform badly and then complain about their teammates. They realize they can’t help their team winning and are in fear of losing the match. It feels like they are crying about not getting carried by the rest of the team. In the end, their strategy about crying until getting carried doesn’t work because they just annoy their team making them not wanting to carry.

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I am a big follower type person and I will always respond to pings or if I think it’s a bad idea I’ll counter ping a danger or retreat. I love when I get on a team with 1 or 2 shot callers and the rest of the team is more than happy to follow. It almost always gets you a win because your team is on the same page.

It’s weird in a game about teamwork that teamwork actually works! :smiley:

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I’ve experienced all those types before. I turned the chat off, and that made my life a bit easier.

It depends how you do it though.

There’s nothing wrong with having a positive outlook, but I don’t do so by warping the reality of what’s currently happening in the game or telling people to stop arguing over legitimate issues as if ANY kind of acknowledgement of the reality is what’s causing the loss, rather than the, you know ACTUAL thing causing the loss. It’s just a form of gaslighting and delusion, which makes me feel like you’re playing a different game. Mistakes can be fixed, delusions, can’t.

That’s when the cheerleader starts pissing me off. Me being positive isn’t giving into despair, it’s taking inventory of our mistakes, calling it out (if appropriate and constructive if possible), and hopefully whoever is making the stupid mistakes, stops.

That is actually what I hope most people would do… Unfortunately for me, I do not like Tanking or Leading randoms because they do not respond to pings or if they think it’s a bad idea, will simply ignore my ping, not counter ping, and we end up dying in a 4v5 because of the player who left without communicating that they were not on board with the call made.

When teamwork works, it’s because everyone is on board, it just takes 1 to ruin everything.

Exactly. The cheerleader is not the one who stays positive, it’s the one who is acting like an oblivious person and saying nonsense instead of trying to fix a problem.

Example: Solo lane Artanis is 0/0/4 top lane on Braxxis. We lose the objective 100/0. One player says, “Artanis, what’s going on up there?” Artanis doesn’t respond. Brightwing on our team says: “We got the next one, it’s ok guys, we can come back!”.

Problem with that is that there is a clear problem on our team: The Artanis. He’s struggling and not letting us know what is going on. The BW (Who means well) tries to encourage the team but is completely missing the fact that the Artanis is losing hard and we need to fix that to win.

I get it too, in today’s society, people get triggered by the littlest of things. Being called out is the equivalent to violence to some crazy people out there. To a person who cannot handle criticism or conflict, it can be hard to actually debate/problem solve and fix a problem effectively.

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