blizzard. stop forcing this game mode on us. nobody wants to play it. last 3 games i had of this mode, all people left, i was stuck with 9 bots. everyone hates this game mode. if you want to push it so hard, make it a separate mode. but stop forcing people into it.
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Stop lying, it wonât make your case stronger.
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If you were actually with 9 bots the game would have auto ended.
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Thats mostly the case in normal games. If enemy team all left then game would auto end in 30 sec.
Still a worthy lie if making the case against a crappy mode forced on people who did not want to play it.
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Nobody except the hundreds of players who asked to put it in you mean?
lying doesnât make the âargumentâ more convincing and only riles up the people that donât enjoy it because they convinced themselves that they did something, and are thus owed recompense accordingly.
These stories then neglect that much of these fabricated stories can be verified with in-game stats (ie, devs can see rates of people leaving, incomplete games, frequency of matches, etc etc) so the deceptive conduct then fools itself into thinking that blizz is somehow unable to verify these reports, or more aptly, if they happen âall the timeâ instead of disregarding other events.
This conduct is usually followed by players by already leave or complain about other aspects of the game as is, however, mirror matches make an easier scapegoat, so they put out a one-track mind in processing what is happening and thus delude themselves further.
The âlieâ isnât worth telling, and the fuss they put into it could be make to get themselves a âbufferâ brain to better cope with things worse than delayed gratification. The contrast of want/get is part of what makes something âenjoyableâ in the first place but some people convince themselves to put more value into the complaint that they still arenât happy when they get what they âwantedâ thus demonstrating that the worth of the âlieâ is part of what makes the experience bad for them.
But since theyâre already telling lies, they may as well tell yet another in the chain-reaction of poorly-thought out falsehoods.
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âremove mirrorâ gets about 230 search hits, âforced 50â gets over 500 
both of which probably pale compared to the bot spam topics that get auto removed 
Anyone remember finding the forums flooded with hanzi? (I donât mean shimada-hate topics 
)
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Tough for them to admit the mode is a failure
The guy came here as his first post on the forums specifically to comment on how terrible the MM mode is. He isnât the only one, in fact it seems like new threads are created daily/weekly. But there 2 or 3 forum trolls who love pointing out how many posts are made weekly about it. Maybe it is a problem??
And while he may have embellished on the â9 players are botsâ, the point is really driven home by how many people felt the need to shake their finger and be like ânope nope, that doesnât happen, the game just endsâ. Itâs almost like everyone knows what happens when everyone from the opposing team leaves an ARAM (never seen the entire enemy team leave in QM or rankedâŚonly in ARAM, and I have seen it many times).
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I have seen it in QM, but oddly enough, never in ARAM, not even a mirror match. I even posted a screen shot of the 8 second Blackheartâs Bay match that happened to me a few weeks ago.
So now that we have the anecdotes out of the way, is there any evidence at all that âmostâ of the people are leaving those matches? One thing that could be an improvement over unsubstantiated claims would be for everyone, pro and con, to go to the replays of any MMS they have had in the past two months and screen capture a mid game talent screen, as that often shows which heroes was played by a bot, as there will be a row of unselected talents.
It would also be interesting to get stats from people that shows how many ARAMs in total they have played in the past month, and how many were mirrors.
I can go first when I get back home and can go through replays.
While not terribly scientific or accurate, it would certainly be more useful than the wild claims people are tossing around.
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Little to no point has actually been made.
The account lacks veracity, is done in a medium that actually invites little-to-no change, could simply be an alt account and not the âno true scottsmansâ youâre trying to represent â thus indicating other dishonest conduct â and the capacity to call someone a âtrollâ does not discount their opinion.
if it holds true that someoneâs opinion could just be ignored by claiming them to be a âtrollâ then the same could extended to routine topics, like these, that can be made by alts or fresh accounts in the time someone spent in a queue waiting for a game.
If a person is willing to lie about their game experience to indicate how âbadâ it is, than a much simpler fix would be for them to simply lie the other way around and convince themselves it was âgoodâ or that âeverybodyâ does it.
Divergence from commonalities of ârealityâ leads people to have bad times in other things they do. If someone doesnât like something, cool; we have opinions. If people want to request or suggest changes, thatâs part of dev feedback. If people want to lie about something, then it generally indicates other issues such that feeding the lies isnât actually addressing the problem they have which is indicated by their âneedâ (so to speak) to lie about their experience.
Complaint cycles around falsehoods generally look to just blame [something] rather than look to actually âfixâ an identifiable problem. Conversely, so long as a person fixated on just scapegoating, they often repeat conduct that keeps them in a loop for having a bad time, so itâs often a case that âappeasingâ the issue doesnât improve their experience, they just nitpick about something else afterward.
A key issue of fixable player concern comes from knowledge and experience, things generally overlooked by people who refuse to read anything that doesnât already agree with what they want to think.
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Lets say they removed it tomorrow. It would not change anything to those who spend months complaining about it. They will be back complaining about how broken most range heroes are in ARAM and want them all removed. And when they are done complaining about that they will find themself a new topic to cry about.
Must be a tough life to have to always complain about everything you hate instead of walking away from it and find stuff you enjoy instead. But sadly most people cant live without having something to cry about.
Problem for who ? Those that always need to cry about every single thing in thier life just to give it any meaning ? Crying about something that only have 2% chance of popping. Sounds like most of you need to grow up and grow a spine. Life must be real hard for you all when you have to dedicate so much time crying over a mode that is very rare.
There are 1000 life problems in this world but a 2% chance for a mirror match in a game should not be one of them.
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True, but sadlyâŚlow pattern recognition is a common theme around here.
This game mode sucks so hard, it will be topic of the month forever
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It will when you and the 4 others want to cry about it every day. Probably not getting much sleep either when the 2% boogie man is haunting you below your bed every night.
I went and checked the replay, and in the all Gulâdan ARAM I had this past weekend, not a single person left at any point in the match, nor did anyone afk.
Not a single one.
Maybe I am just lucky, but I havenât seen the sort of weak-minded quitter in my ARAMs that seem to infest these sorts of threads. It seems to happen far more often to me in QM than any other mode!
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None of the complainers have yet to provide any evidence about getting 2-3 mirrors in a raw or how many left the mirror they left themself. Its all trust me bro.
Its just too many of the complainers play ARAM with a too serious mindset. They dont embrace the clown mode and think every game should be meta comps.
The same complainers still leave normal ARAM games so what exactly makes them better and think people should take any of thier posts serious.
Complaining about a mode for months that only comes up twice every 100 games is just peak baby rage mentality.
And the most resent one with the Murky mirror had one player getting downvoted cause he is just like the guys on this forum. Complaining about something so small as this while telling people to leave the match when it pops up.
They are just professional haters as one of them said. That can be said to the same people that are on this forum. They are all professional haters. Either way those people cant be satisfied. They only know how to hate on stuff.
These haters just want the game to be the same boring game. Add something unique to the mix and they quicky out to complain it should be removed again.
Remove X. Remove Y. Remove Z thing from the game until there are nothing unique left to play. Just the same boring game until the complainers gets bored and leave.
I would say just leave the haters to hate in in peace. In the end they ends up in leaver que anyway or gets banned for leaving too much. Just entilted kids who think the last dev that keep this game running should only cater to him and his weak minded opinions.
if Blizzard had a huge sample of data that shows people are leaving then they would probably remove it again. But since its still stays then I can only guess its only a very vocal minority that think just because they scream the loudest then they are suddenly the majority.
2/10 players leaving is not the majority btw.
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someone had shared screencaps to show they did get multiple mirrors in a row: i donât doubt that it can happen. When iâve had mirror games, theyâre usually close together.
Some of the ones that complain about leavers are leavers themselves playing in leaver queue and âmustâ play out the game because they left their regular aram games and get stuck with a mirror in leavers where players leave games.
The one with âbotsâ in it may have had actual âbotsâ since aram is a mode that will fill if someone is in queue long enough.
The tales told arenât completely âtrust me broâ but there usually is unspoken context that influences why theyâre having particular problems. If someone plays out a game, theyâre only in queue once in 15 - 20 minutes; when people leave games, they can have âdozensâ of aram games in a matter of moments and thus be more likely to have mirror matches.
Lotta people fixate on the game being âdedâ so they think only a handful of matches are being made instead of flipping the math and figuring out the frequency of mirrors would indicate a higher amount of games played than they consider.
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