About Fenix's level 20 (Secondary Fire)

General Discussion
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Serious question but does anyone pick this talent? I find myself picking Unconquered spirit for the most part and Singularity Charge if I want more damage, but I can’t find myself ever using this skill or if the damage it provides is even worth it.

I want to know what you guys think about it and if it’s even good in any kind of situation, I know if the enemy team has blinds it could get more value than Singularity Charge but most of Fenix talents are dedicated on upgrading his AA.

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I mean, it’s not the best out of Fenix’s level 20’s, but if you’re good with the slows, pick it.

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Before blizzard nerf Q build Fenix, Secondary always picked but now with huge nerf Q build Singularity Charge better for damage. Read more, every patch balance forcus Q build.
https:// heroespatchnotes. com/hero/fenix.html

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I think it’s alright if you’ve got the level 1 quest giving one more rotation on Q and you use Q and ult together. Secondary fire works just like ult anyway. Kind of a pity to see people use ult but without Q, wasting the slow bonus damage potential.

I mostly build as AA so I pretty much alwayys go Singularity Charge though.

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Q build :skull_and_crossbones:

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As others have said, Secondary Fire is only useful if you go for Q build, in any other circumstances is just not enough good. I think this Talent need a revision.

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I pick it all the time. It’s more damage. I still play his Q build regularly and have a 65.3% winrate with him as my most played hero. His auto attack build might be stronger but it’s also more fiddly than I like playing him Q build means I only need to really think about adjusting my positioning to keep people in my circle.

As for unconquered spirit I find it useless since I so rarely even get close to dying as Fenix. A match where I die more than 5 times as him is quite rare so I’d get maybe one use out of it. I’ve mastered the timing on my teleport that I usually use it to get away from huge bursts like tracer bombs, pyroblast or butcher charges.

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Talent itself brings a lot of ability damage and is more picked in Laser build, you immediately slow followed by deploying one shot of Purifying Targets (if that’s the heroic name) that deals bonus damage because the target slow, if you can AA well and keep hitting your laser you can kill them very quickly.

Of course you require to sacrifice a lot of defensive things to achieve this.

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I play with all of the level 20 talents. I only take secondary fire if I went Q build to begin with(meaning I needed the slows or more ability damage). Back when Fenix first was released it was insane but now that both Battle Momentum and Salvo have been nerfed it’s rarely talent of choice for me.