hey Blizzard, what s the point for Abathur Monstrosity as Seige Monster status ?
When Abathur control his monstrosity, the hitbox should be a hero taget in order we can stack hero quests on his monstrosity, exacly like when a Hero enter in Dragon in Dragonshire or the Triglav on Volskaya, so why after 5 years this thing isn t corrected ?
Abathur is so popular because of thing like that that Blizzard didn t see it coming.
We can t stack on Monstrosity and we should be able !
Abathur’s monsters in Starcraft 2 coop: We can destroy entire armies with our simbiotic abilities and deep dig!
Abathur’s monsters in Hots: exp goes vrr
the monstrosity is a summon , its also classified as a non-heroic target.
many ults share that feature,
should ultralisk be counted as heroic ? kerrigan can micro it fully at level 20 .
nazeebo’s gargantuan is also a non heroic target.
azmodan’s minions .
i mean we could go at it all day , thing is , if we were to have a ruling of a summon counted as a hero, there are MANY other rules we would need to litteraly rebalance.
evolution’s target does count as a hero because in that time you are no longer playing Aba but rather an actual hero, a copy of it sure, but still an actual hero like KT or ETC of which ever you happen to pick at the time.
overall , i dont think it was ever intended to be counted as a heroic target and im perfectly fine with it.
You on drugs?
You want to nerf an already underpicked ultimate?
BTW if blizz would make the change you are proposing, aka making monstro a hero target, thus enabling stacking of quests and other things, do you realize monstro could take camps, objectives, enter vehicles like volskaya protector or dragon knight and tale globes?
Not only does Monstrosity not need this unnecessary nerf (making him a heroic target would be a massive nerf), it needs buffs to be on par with Ultimate Evolution in decent games.
For example making it a viable team fighter or camp capper. I would give it the ability to step on capture points like the Braxxis beacons or merc capture rings.
He could easily do siege camps from a distance and contest an objective 1v1 (and possibly bruiser camps in late game if stacked to 40). (Aba can burrow in to do that but it’s risky)
This is the key issue why it won’t happen. Too much potential for bugs. In addition imagine undoing Symbiote while Monstrosity is in a vehicle. I expect crash or the vehicle doing nothing for that period. A more sane resolution would be just an AI controller taking over but we all know how buggy things can be.
So as “simple” this change might be, as interesting as it could be, the devs would never do it because it opens a massive can of worms.
Samuro Clones = can we stack on them ? (My guess is Yes)
Misha = can we stack on it r? (My guess is Yes)
Banshee = Can we stack on it ? (My guess is yes)
Elemental Water = Can we stack on it ? (My guess is yes)
Brutalisk = Can we stack on it ? (My guess is yes)
Beettles from Anub = Can we stack on it ? (hope not lol) (My guess is no)
Creeps from Zagara = Can we stack on them ? (hope not lol ) (My guess is no)
Probius Creep = Can we stack on them ? (hope not lol) (My guess is no)
The point i am trying to show is if there is an Abathur on the other side, that makes hero stacking quest on the side and it is harder for these heroes to be successfull.
I may have miss some heroes with extra controlling monster !
When we have the opportunity to control the Monster, the Hero or any kind of Controls, it should be perceives as Hero Target !
If you want Monstrosity to be a Heroic target, then don’t just make it a hero when you want to stack on it, go all out and buff it to actually be on par or close to one. Don’t just make it a hero with simply the disadvantage, give it all the perks of a hero, collecting XP globes without a hat, taking camps, be a valid target for hero-centric ults like nano boost or stim drone. In fact, I would go as far as giving it a self-preserving A.I. that actually tried to retreat when losing X% of hat without the need of a symbiote.
Actually you know what? I actually want this now. I think that if Monstro is counted as a heroic target, it’ll be picked more often. Imagine a Monstro with Nano boost AND Stim drone, increased attack speed and spell power (since all of its attacks are spell damage), coupled with adrenal overload and other buffs. Give it the level 20 upgrade (increase damage by 100%) and It’ll be a force to be reckoned with instead of a glorified Bruiser Merc. Just a thought.
I would propose giving it an A.I. similar to an Adept/Hard Hero who will obey Abathur’s commands i.e. retreat, take camps, maybe even a command of “come here” or “go there” or “attack this hero”
I already feel hindered whenever an Aba picks that thing instead of the Clone Heroic (which is counted as a Hero jtbc), no need to nerf Monstro even furhter.