Abathur a little too safe?

[Phrozen-1504]

@Kilometer-11340

Well, draft mode would at least making things easier to deal with Abathur as you can select an appropriate hero to fight against him or just outright ban him.

Im generally speaking, not sure how long you have been playing but similar to murky eggs, the idea was to find out where he is by paying attention to clues on the map, and if he wanted to roam he would hide and place nests where he could be approached and retreat before he gets caught. Now he can stay put and be just as effective in the game, there is no risk involved. This is not a discussion on how effective he is, how powerful he can be, its about no risks and no appropriate counter play

[RasAlGhul-1763]

@Phrozen-1504

Tho i respect your opinion, that is incorrect, a abahat is not some AutoPilot Buff you apply to someone, Abathur has to properly engage the fight by targeting the enemy, when or not to shield, also when using Ults, especially cloning a hero takes pretty much the knowledge and skill to play every hero in the game at a decent level, not simply spamming random skills until the clone is killed or expires

that by itself is “Auto Pilot Buff”

@Phrozen-1504

The game modes dont change the fact that assassins cannot reach him without suicide, and forts provide him with detection against stealth

I killed aba who’s hiding near fort and tower with hanzo’s dragonstrike
It was in TL

@Phrozen-1504

This is not a discussion on how effective he is, how powerful he can be, its about no risks and no appropriate counter play

no risk? scroll up. Aba need someone decent to be “hat”
If I’m the one banning, I can tell you 100% that I won’t be playing aba even if it’s a good aba map.
no appropriate counter play? medivh, tassadar, zarya. See a pattern here?

[MadCat-1793]

Heroes unstoppable buffed by Abathur…

Auto-attack heros are not unstoppable, you have the choice to play draft.

LiLi and Joh can blind, Anub and Stitches can temporarily disable “2 heros”

Then you have auto-attack speed reducing tanks, Muradin and Arthas of the top of the head.

[Alexarius-21819]

An Abathur that wants to make an impact has to play uncareful and go into bushes along the lane.

He then needs to be reacting fast because if he gets caught he cannot waste a second or he is free exp for the enmy team.