I have seen some players taking advantage of matchmaking, just playing 5 stacks 24 hours a day, and they are not even good, these guys in ranked were never more than mediocre platinum, but in quick match they have 70% win rate, everything achieved over new (random) players with unbalanced matches qm… I’m a diamond and I don’t have close to that win rate, it’s clearly a distortion. Why does the game allow this?
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ABUSING teamplay in TEAMPLAY moba game. You are genius!!!
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Want an honest teamplay go ranked, nb. Oh, let me see you can’t get the same result doing this there, cuz the mm dont expands the equirements and forces broken matches against noobs, new players and stuff after 7 or 8 minutes… wat a surprise.
It is very difficult to know which teams are just a bunch of random people who joined together for more experience and which are actually coordinated teams with a serious game plan. Over time the match maker should push up their MMR so that they get matched against tougher opponents, but the quick match nature of QM might make this difficult for the match maker to do well.
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i dont understand your issue, if its a 5 stack team. that means you arent part of it, thus there is nothing negative on your end. just play like usual no ?
am i missing something ?
There’s a lot of terms for it, boosted, carried, so on
I miss the days when I’d mess around with people in 5 stacks.
We used to queue as 5 warriors and our EHP was just way too much for the enemy team to handle. It also inflated the heck out of my Arthas’ winrate.
Couldn’t get them to queue as 5 supports after that one game we lost on BoE when we couldn’t outrace immortal and enemy abathur was slowly pushing in our lanes while we defended obj.
Aways the same lame excuse “oh i just want to play with my friends”… “u say this cuz u dont have friends!!” what’s wrong with being sincere and telling the truth?
After 7 or 9 minutes of queue expanding requirements the match WILL NEVER be balanced and always a joke, 5 patetic qm abusers vs new players.
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Coordinated high MMR 5 stacks might be a problem on OP’s server though (I assume by the name he plays on Latin America).
They can win 90, 100% and never get an adequate opponent because there aren’t enough players online on small servers.
I don’t think the problem is solvable in any way either, except Blizzard doing a multi-million dollar ad campaign to bring in more players which is unlikely.
If there is a “positive”, that 5 stack will probably make so many people log out or refuse to queue, after a while they wont find a match at all. And they’ll waste hours in queue.
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While it’s annoying, yes, it is an intended game mechanic.
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If dont have players on line to face that 5 high lvl stack (and most of the time of course really dont have) the match shouldn’t happen. Why force the match? I dont understand. “Oh because the name is ‘quick match’ need to find some match fast no matter the balance” some noobs, believe, use this lame argument.
They are not interested in fun, challenge, something with a degree of difficulty, but just take advantage of this loophole to ruin the game of new players. They dont care to wait 8-9 minutes every single quick match, as long as they have a very unbalanced match against nbs. Its so pathetic.
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The other alternative is not getting a match at all (or like in the case of ARAM, filling empty slots with AI after some time has passed) and a lot of customers aren’t ready for that option.
Even Australia players have voiced they rather play a very unbalanced and unfair match, than no match at all.
As said, there is little to nothing the developers can do to fix this problem. The company has to spend big money on advertising to bring in more players and fix the issue, which is very unlikely.
Considering the higher-ups wont even release funds to maintain old non-Aram Brawls or create real hero trailers anymore.
P.S. high ranks on small servers already experience dead queues (waiting hours and no match found). They are forced to smurf or not play HotS at all. The user in question was Spazzo965, a known community poster.
(He had to wait 22 hours in queue without a match on Australia)
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We should create a thread to collect all the “I play against team in QM” complaints.
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I can’t blame people for doing 5 stacks in QM when all it takes is 1 clown to ruin it for everyone.
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Its because he plays on latin server were population is properly as low as AZ server so the only way you can get good games is teaming up in premades and thats what makes OP angry cause he thinks people are cheating and abusing the low population part to farm free wins in premades vs teams that will highly end up with a team full of trolls.
Too bad this is not something that can be reported or done anything to fix. Playing 5 man premade in a team game is not reportable no matter on which server you play on and should never be as this is a team game.
If it starts to be reportable to 5 man premade in this game then this game is game over for many who wants to play together in a party.
Its should not come as a surprice that most complains about 5 mans being unfair and has too high advantage comes from people who refuse to join a party themself and only solo que.
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Dude, same lame excuse again? Wat part of “I join a party all the time” u didnt understand? Exactly for know how pathtic it is that im talking about, my friend. I made a streak of 14 wins in a row yesterday, look at my profile. Yeah sometimes I want to play off heroes, when im not playing carry, I accept the invitations people send me. But its not fun at all, its a joke, actually. It is not challenging.
One thing is 5 stacks occasionally, however, when you ONLY DO this, systematically, u are not looking for challenge, u are just wishing for safe wins, u are are a coward.
Not me who make two threads about the same stuff lol so keep that to yourself. Also you should have figured that out long time ago when you know you play on a low pup server.
On EU were i play i have no problems facing 5 mans. Just won two games vs a 5 man today so i dont know what your problem is other then pointing fingers.
What challange is there in getting free wins on a low pup server lol. NONE.
Why do you even care? Its not like qm wr matters. If you dont like to face a little coordination in an uncoordinated mode just go to unranked or ranked.
I have no intention to offend you, but by the way it is written this seems like an ego problem to me.
Theres nothing to prove in qm. Have fun and meet new people.
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That “positive” has been happening for years now and is a big reason why many players left imo
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Happens constantly on SG server too. You can clearly see how much they need to win, by the level of cheese in the composition.
Absolutely horrible to play against some times, especially when they pull back from core and refuse to end until they farm you a couple more times.
Here are your personal options:-
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Just log out. Take the leaver’s queue as a badge of honour, then hope RNG gives you a quick exit from leaver queue. I don’t normally take this option, there’s always something to practice in every match.
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Just practice your skill-shots and work on personal growth for 15-20 minutes. You don’t have to win in order to develop yourself. If the team starts getting toxic (which usually does when they have this experience of being hopelessly farmed), try to remind them they are playing vs “that 5 stack cheese team”. They’ve probably met them before, so they’ll know the drill after that.
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Switch your preferred server to NA. You will have much lower chance of playing 5 stacks. However you will play with major lag. Some people can deal with it, others can’t. Be ready to face even more toxic players because you didn’t hit the MLG skill shot/save.
If I was a Dev…
My most basic solution would be this - if the game has to match the 5 man vs anything less than 3, it will treat the stack as a “fully balanced comp” (healer, tank and ranged assassin regardless of actual team), but removing the MMR “penalty” (which is obviously completely ignored on low-pop servers.)
This will instantly remove the “cheese” advantage from the 5 stack when playing less coordinated teams.
This change will improve the matches of players in low-pop servers, while barely impacting the high pop servers (where you have a greater chance of being struck by lightning than playing a 5 stack…)
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Everyone knows you’re right, but they either to naive or too cowardly to admit that their warped view about what should or shouldn’t be allowed in QM is detrimental to the game.
It’s a self-perpetuating cycle.
1.) 5 stacks ruin the game. Makes people quit.
2.) “Don’t change anything, the game has few enough players already!”
3.) 5 stacks still ruin the game. Makes more people quit.
4.) “Don’t change anything, the game has even fewer people playing!”
5.) 5 stacks continue to ruin the game. Game starts dying.
Rinse and repeat until the servers get shut down.
GG.
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