lost count of how many times this bum gave me useless options instead of what i needed. usually its because he is not valuing enemy deathrattles but there are other scenarios where u play him and its literally gg cause hes a useless dipshyt. i propose anytime u hover over this garbage it shows u the 3 cards it will give u so u dont have to play him and concede
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of course he doesnt give to usufull options,because you say his name wrong.
its ZEPHRYS
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Your wish is my concede
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Haven’t you read his flavor text?
The card is perfect, you just don’t know how to use it. I’m gonna easily assume blizzards’ AI for Zephyrs is smarter than you are, because not only do you seem dumb, you’re a human which makes mistakes. Zephyrs’ AI is specifically made so it does not.
Zephyrs is a card which requires expansive knowledge of the classic/basic set and knowledge of his mechanic limits as well as his AI limits. I’m going to assume you didn’t care to learn these limitations or how to actually use the card.
It is unmistakably a problem on your end.
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¨I am better than you, you are bad , I good…¨
tell zephyr to expand his knowledge not me. i play him against 3 1/1 plague gnomes a 2/1 sandtrooper and an 0/2 bomb. no mass dispel. who is the stupid one
Hard to tell how smart Zeffy is (or isn’t) without knowing more about the board. Maybe he saw a way to give you lethal and you didn’t understand it? Maybe your game would be lost even if you silenced the other side? Maybe you didn’t have enough mana after you played Zeffy, so he didn’t give you a card that you wouldn’t be able to play until next turn?
Or maybe he screwed up, he’s an air elemental, they’re flighty. But without more info, it seems at least as likely that you didn’t give him any good options, or that he gave you a great card and you missed it.
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reading this title brought me a good chuckle. ty kind sir.
Its right. Small DR are not a threat. The AI behind this card is really terrible.
Attack or Life is mire important than a silence for him and this is just silly. Oh and he does not care if there is a secret or not.
Your lack of understanding how to use the AI properly is not an indication of how bad a card is.
I’ve never once, not a single time, ever had Zephrys not offer me exactly what I was looking for because I understand the logic behind the card and how to get what I want out of it.
Zephrys is often an idiot yeah. What often happens to me is that he often offers Moonfire as 1 of its options for no reason whatsoever, then when I actually want Moonfire because I desperately need to pin something and play Zephrys when I have 2 mana left (so I have 0 mana left to force Zeph to offer me a 0 mana card), he doesn’t and offers me 3 cards with a mana cost! [rips out hair out of frustration]
Sometimes he surprises me though. Had a game where he read Kalecgos’s effect and properly offered me Pyroblast for the win.
Aww is someone mad their get out of jail free card didnt grant them an instant win by pulling an otherwise impossible answer? Boo hoo. Cry me a river.
Can always leave him out of your Highlander deck if he is consistently giving you bad results.
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From what I’ve seen with Zephrys, if you are looking for a proactive card, examples Tirion, Wild Growth, Savage Roar, Bloodlust, Fireball or Soulfire it is pretty easy to guarantee those options.
Otoh if you are trying to use Zephrys re-actively it gets a lot more complicated with the expected results sometimes not showing up. Mass Dispel is relatively infamous for not being offered. I’ve seen some of the best players in the world on stream massage their turn to get a specific answer from Zephrys and not get it.
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Then it sounds like many of these players don’t understand why Zeph is offering what he’s offering.
If it’s a board full of 1/1 deathrattles, you’re not going to get mass dispel. It isn’t happening. You’re going to get arcane explosion guaranteed. Your other options will depend on how much mana you have left and how much mana you will have next turn. Playing it on turn 7 will almost certainly net you a Tirion. I’m not sure why people have such a hard time figuring this out.
You don’t get Mass Dispel unless it gives you lethal or unless the enemy has MULTIPLE deathrattle minions that wouldn’t be effected by bigger aoe like flamestrike or smaller aoe like arcane explosion. I thought people would have figured this out by now.
If you want Mass Dispel then you should know exactly when it would offer it. If Flamestrike clears the board or Arcane Explosion clears the board, you shouldn’t be expecting Mass Dispel.
And this is just silly. Effects and Secret are most of time more important than killing minions. And the AI should learn that.
I get secret destruction 100% of the time I want it. If you want secret destruction, make sure you leave 2 mana ONLY left to work with and the enemy has a secret and you’ll get flare.
The AI doesn’t take into account deathrattle effects so you should never be playing Zeph as if he does.
AIUI, it does take into account the fact that enemy minions have deathrattle, it just doesn’t take into account what that deathrattle is.
Basically, it looks at the board and thinks things like, “That’s a 2 mana card with a deathrattle. Its stats are A/B, but ordinarily a vanilla 2 mana card would have stats like X/Y. So that difference in value is how much that deathrattle is worth.” And it assumes that (a) Killing the deathrattle minion gives the other player a value boost of that much, and (b) silencing the minion takes that much value from the other player. All of that goes into the hopper when Zephrys decides what to offer you.
But it won’t look and say something like “That’s five Leper Gnomes, their deathrattles will kill you, we need to silence them.”
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He only offers you flare if the board is clear. He does not care if you have 4 or 2 mana left. If the board is not clear he gives you a clear option.
And the AI should take into account deathrattle effects more seriuos. Or give the player the choice for silence and kill. Not only one.
And Z should calculat with the life of the player.
And its says “perfect card” not “clear the board card” or “destroy a minion card”. The perfect way is not always kill or clear.
Wrong. And this is all the proof I need to sum up what I was saying before that you just don’t know what you’re doing or talking about.
Go get zeph and try it out for yourself. I just got zeph to give me flare when I had 2 mana left and the opponent had minions on board and 2 secrets in play. The board does not have to be clear and you don’t know what you’re talking about.