Zeph vs Vargoth

Why again doesnt Zeph offer polymorth or Hex against a Vargoth on board when i have 4 mana left, i dont wanna kill the Vargoth cause it wil get ressed into 7 other vargoths and if i leave it up the Priest gets way to much value of it. Either introduce a proper Graveyard or fix this.

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because zephrys cant read card text. vargoth is a 4 mana 2/6 in zephrys eyes

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Because blizzard decided wild rez priest wasnt hard enough to counter. :roll_eyes:

but zeph is supposed to give me the perfect standard card, vargoth has an effect and specially vs priest should consider that messing up the rez pool would benefit me more than just killing it

it still cant read card text, it only recognises stats and keywords of minions on field

your wish for specific cards for specifically rez priest would require specific hard coding for the specific situation, which in turn would require zephrys to have access to your deck to determine if its a rez deck or not.

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with the exception of doomslayer.

But even if he did, he wouldn’t offer you a polymorph, because to him killing Vargoth is better than leaving a 1/1 on the field, since he doesn’t know res priest is a thing

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yeah, zephrys code specifically includes doomsayer as an exception to his normal logic

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Zeph evaluates low stats minions with deathrattle effects not appropriately.
Zeph does not offer silence or hex very often at 10 mana crystals (I don’t speak about mana left) but probably Trion:P, even played at 4 mana. At 6 mana crystals, it will though.
It offers massdispel however, if your opponent has at least 2 deathrattle minions, if you play it at 4 mana, but then no hex, I think.

Go for 3 mana tutor and use Shadow Madness. Make sure you kill Vargoth on your side of the board.

Zeph loves though cabal shadow Priest, he will nearly always offer it, if he can.

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Technically, Zephrys lets you wish for the perfect card. Doesn’t mean you’ll get your wish.

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i was at 5 mana coined the zeph so i have 6 mana crystals on an empty board i gut sthe kill a minion with 3 or less hp, a 6 drop that wasnt gain controll of a minion with 2 or less and the dragon that gains health for each card in your hand.
Hex would be optimal but for some reason Zeph offers me a card i cannot play and a card that doesnt even interact with vargoth after that the priest summoned a 5/5 from his deck repeated it with Varoth and i conceded cause my only way of winning was denied to me

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zephrys usually offers hex against minion with a deathrattle+taunt. Now that you know it, you can try again.

I lost a loooooooooooot of games against res priest because of zephrys pepega offerings, like the 5 mana minion that destroy a 2 attack enemy minion, instead of hex… that’s how zephrys work. and yet there are people who say you just have to drop it to win the game :rofl:

note: lost = maybe i won, but after 30 minutes of infinite ress instead of 10… is it a real win?

so your opponent had a 2/6and you had only zephrys? zephrys will almost always prioritize board development or card draw in that scenario

against rez its often better usage to save zeph for a big board clear instead of trying to get through a cute early play to pollute the rez poll (that often will fail)

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I disagree: an early hex on the first minion played by the priest can easily win the game. I always try to get it if i can.
One time i also played a leeroy on turn 5 to kill the infiltrator and pollute the enemy ress poll

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did you read the thread? the reason it often fails is because zephrys rarely recognices a card as needed to be hexed over just killing it regularly. early polluting of the rez pool is ofc a very valid gameplan, but you cant expect zephrys to give it to you that early on.

“Your wish is my suggestion.”

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Now you know how I feel when Zeph didn’t give me Mass Dispel for lethal because I had 3 mana and he didn’t know Kalecgos made it free.

Or worse, the time he didn’t give backstab turn 3 to kill EVIL Totem, and instead offered Mortal Coil to kill his 1/1 that I didn’t care about.

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becuz zeph doesnt give you the perfect card, read the text next time

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