Worst nerf patch ever

Most definitely, at least in this game

Other people similar to us are probably earning 10 digits and writing history xDDD

I think your premise is flawed because people who do build successful decks might not play enough games to have those decks reverse engineered and widely disseminated. Not to mention people who can deckbuild can also adapt and can easily switch out cards here and there without the need to wait for someone to post a new deck list for them after every patch.

Now obviously not every deck idea is going to be a top legend performer… but I would wager theres a bunch of people out there who have come up with decks that would be top legend performers if the people who built them cared enough to grind there.

Not to mention good deck builders can build something that can counter a high % of the field… see hostage shaman which has what I would imagine to be a 99.99% winrate vs. zerg dk… but can also be teched vs all the weapon decks (druid/rogue) by simply including frosty decor which would provide a high winrate vs a large percentage of the opponent field today.

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It IS flawed, as a means to generalization. I have way too many arguments to post in my replies to dissect each one of them word for word. I figure, if you know, you know.

I only know a handful of players who can build their own decks and bring them to high legend. I do think that every 2k player can do it, but I don’t know many of them.

Contrary to that, I know a lot of top ranked players who never built their own deck, and those who do, their decks get copied by thousands instantaneously, and with it comes the power of the networking, or the “collective intelligence”, which turns a working homebrew deck into an optimized netdeck.

If we both agree that this is true, then my argument is correct, even if flawed.

Now, ofc, this argument is also flawed due to representative bias, but hey, nothing is perfect, and I feel like my experience and overall knowledge should speak for itself sometimes (if the difference between negative, emotional complaints of others and my calm, collected and logical replies doesn’t).

I wouldn’t. It took me 3 days to build a mech warlock deck while missing all the cards from previous 2-3 expansions and bring it to top 6k in Asia with 65% winrate. What this fact tells me is that piloting skills >> deck strength, which means that if they actually had the skills to do it, they would have already done it.

But since they didn’t, it follows that their piloting skills are not good enough, and from that it follows that their deck is probably not good enough, as well, considering that they literally don’t know what they’re doing.

Mediocre wtf?? That deck was the most tilt inducing deck pre balance patch

Mediocre in th sense that the non-fizzle version was better as far as I can tell from Hsguru and it’s still the best deck in the format.

The OP has no business even implying that Terran shaman took even a dent due to nerfs since they did nothing.

the only place i found real creative decks is in wild where everything goes outside of that its bots and netdecks lol

there has to be smart people playing this or it would be a drag would it not? altho i wont lie i always love chuckling when i see a bot spend an entire turn attacking my location

all this brainpower is makin it stink in here lol

I think many of you overestimate what a good deck builder usually does. The combinations of cards that make good decks in Standard are very finite per class so most of the archetypes are discovered independently by multiple good deck builders with the exception of a minority of cards in the decks which are often tech cards.

What I’m getting at is that people often think deck building is being 100% unique but that usually means a bad deck because the archetypes that are possibly good are often discovered already by multiple other people because the number of possible good archetypes is finite.

In practice that means that good deck builders act as if they took a netdeck and only modified it, which explains why the top 50 of Standard is often just netdecks with modifications on tech cards alone and some other limited exceptions.

well some of those decks u have to modify you think everyone has all the legendary cards? naw jus move em for something else and hope it works