Wildfire refund

“Predatory capitalism” should be the name of this game, and anyone who doesn’t know that? Ought to…

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It’s like shoes, it’s better, but not your size. And you can’t get your old shoes back so now you have to walk on bare foot.

In this wildfire case, it matters because it’s a key card.

According to your EULA, why don’t Bz just buff Baki and Genn to one mana less and this will solve the problem once and for all?

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Sure. But in many countries there are laws exactly against that too.

No contract is above law is a Very common law. This means that If any item in the EULA go against Brazilian rules it is automacally considered inexistant.

The end result of that would be not getting any buffs because giving refunds for improvements becomes more trouble than it’s worth. They’ve said this from the very first time they did buffs that they weren’t gonna give refunds for that and anyone expecting them at this point is living in lala land

No.

It would end in more people actually trying the buffed cards since they got refunds.

Other way to Go about It is to refund automatically and let people recraft If they Desire. Without an “time window”.

They’ve said that in general buffs don’t do very much as they usually result in either the buff being too strong making the card very important to be drawn for the entire deck to work or have no impact whatsoever on the meta. If they have to start giving out refunds they’ll simply stop doing them because that makes them more expensive than they’re worth and just stick to nerfs which do a better job at fine tuning the meta by bringing a deck’s winrate down some percentage points rather than trying to bring another deck’s winrate up with a buff.

Your text is like believe in santa.

It really isn’t expensive at all. For the simple fact that far less people gonna actually care.

If you believe your product IS in fact better why the consumer would want to refund It?

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sure it can, I am seeing mages playing it right now on ladder.

I think the main issue here is they should NEVER print odd even highlander style cards because now they have to balance around that meme FOREVER

Or they could just not do it altogether and save themselves the cost that comes with full dust refunds for changes that don’t tend to impact the game much. They’ve publicly said that buffs tend not to do very much for the game so if there’s an extra cost now tacked on to that they’d just stick with nerfs so that when they do need to give full dust refunds it’s limited just to nerfs. They don’t think buffs do very much and have the data to back that up. They do them because they cost nothing. Full dust refunds have a cost to them so if they are forced to add that to buffs then this previously free addition that wasn’t adding much to the game now comes with a cost they simply won’t do it and stick to what the data shows is a better way to effect change in the meta

Im just going to say refunds happen a lot in Asian countries like Japan and Korea even if the change ends up better for the player.

The focus is more on what was advertised they have draconic laws to protect the consumer ,cant say the same about the west part of the world.

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Because buff a unviable card into “still unviable” is such a incredible move that should be rewarded second you.

Jokes on you really.

Buffs that make a bad card good, according to Iksar, have only ever made it so that decks depend on drawing that card to be good. The scenario you are talking about has never happened and Iksar seems to believe it’s not possible or extremely rare so if an extra cost gets added to them they’d just stop doing it since it’s now not worth it. Buffs that make a bad card still bad are a waste now and adding an extra cost to their end won’t make that more appealing

The options are no refunds for buffs or no buffs at all and the community seems to overwhelmingly prefer the former.

Except It isn’t a negotiation.

And they Will not stop neither when It bites they back(Because It Will sooner or later).

There are too many countries with laws focused on advertising and for a reason.

America law is what is different from most of the world.Not the opposite.

They don’t have to do buffs. They don’t think buffs are particularly useful so if buffs start costing money, which full dust refunds do, they’re way more likely to simply stop doing buffs than they are to swallow the cost of something they already see as ineffective

Then don’t do.

Just jeep printing same mechanics again and again until some obscure before weak card breaks wild and they gonna have to refund people anyway.

Still a win.

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Wild balance changes are pretty rare so they’d happily do that over paying for buffs. What you’re requesting for doesn’t seem like the popular choice. Most people would rather buffs that don’t give full dust refunds than no buffs at all.

Bored people get out of games faster than angry ones.

Despite of less in game impact just the fact you buff cards makes players respond better overall.

Don’t they wanna the game to feel better so much they nerf non issue cards?

Yes. They have more than enough reason for buffs.

I don’t understand what point you’re trying to make. Why would just nerfs result in more people leaving the game than a mix of buffs and nerfs? Where do you get this data from?

Right now nerfs cost a bit more but are much more effective at adjusting metas. Buffs are cheaper but have less of an effect on the meta. If buffs stop being cheaper there’d be no point in doing them at all.

Iksar has also noted that when players say the sorts of things you do what they’re really asking for is for the game to be more rewarding which they can do while not using a meh dust system.