I don’t play wild but I’ve never understood why cards in the HoF are not completely out of play for both wild and standard. Wouldn’t that help with balancing wild? That would also allow standard cards to either move to wild early or HoF when needed for balancing.
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Not necessarily, because often HOF’d cards are not an issue in Wild. Prophet Velen being one of the recent examples.
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The purpose of Hall of Fame is all relative to the balance of the Standard Format. Cards powerful in Standard are not always necessarily a problem in Wild, especially with the case of Hall of Fame cards. In addition, the problem cards in Wild are usually ones not from the Classic or Hall of Fame format anyway, so it’s not like removing Hall of Fame cards would necessarily end the inevitable imbalance of Wild.
The choice of putting cards in Hall of Fame are also not strictly that the cards are unbalanced, but rather that they either hinder design space or that the cards are not in the direction of concept they want. Priest is the most recent example, where the rehauled classic set was more because the class was a whole lot weaker, and the few cards that were strong were not fitting to the design they wanted Priest to be (more control oriented vs combo/burst oriented).
Removing cards that are fun and completely playable would be a poor choice since Wild classes often still need some of these cards to sustain.
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I play mostly wild and I agree. Generally cards that are removed from Standard are obnoxious in Wild, as well.
In some cases, cards are removed from Standard simply because they are popular (Azure Drake, Ragnaros, some more I can’t think of right now). Those shouldn’t be removed, but I’m sure we could all live without cards like Sylvanas, Ice Block, Leeroy, etc etc etc
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So you wouldn’t mind to be denied from playing cards you got from packs purchased with gold (time) or real money or crafted with dust?
Well, I would not be okay with that. I would actually quit if they did that. And I don’t even play Wild.
Wild is not there to be another balanced mode. It’s there to be able to play all the cards ever released. That’s literally the only reason it’s there.
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Wild is absolutely there to be a balanced mode… What an asinine argument.
Cards put in the HoF give dust back. That wouldn’t change. It would just help provide a method for removing bad cards from both modes. When I first started playing I assumed that’s what HoF meant. Since I don’t play wild I don’t really care but was curious what others thought.
They arent that powerful to be nerfed and giving people free dust, but strong enough to make people wont buy new packs.
So, no dust bonus and people must but new packs. Super win deal for blizz.
Prophet Velen is an example of a card that would stay wild but not HoF.
Nope. It isn’t. It’s just a dumpster for rotating cards where people can still play whatever they please. That’s literally the only reason it exists.
Sure balancing can, and will be, done there when they feel it’s absolutely necessary. But don’t expect Wild, with about 2500 cards and more coming with each new set, to be nearly as balanced as Standard with limited amount of sets. The designers won’t be designing and balancing cards around two different modes. THAT is an asinine expectation. 
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Hall of fame cards are rarely cards that are overpowered, they are cards that stagnate the meta and limit design space for new concepts, as old concepts in the form of these cards will still be more powerful.
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Because many players purchased those cards with real money and completely erasing paid content is a major no-no.
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HoF is by definition “cards sent to Wild from Standard”, so if you want to make a distinction between HoF and Wild, what you are saying is not “HoF cards should go” but rather, “There are certain HoF cards I don’t like and I want gone”.
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That is not what I’m saying. I’m saying some cards that are currently HoF should be wild only and then HoF would be redefined as “cards that are completely out of play”. The HoF list would naturally become smaller.
Players would have a fit if they made cards completely unplayable. i know I would.
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Obnoxious like Sylv doesn’t mean too powerful. What you find obnoxious others may find fun or have cool strategies around (Reincarnate + Ancestral Spirit on Sylv for instance).
Outside of Genn/Baku I can’t think of any straight HoF’d cards that have caused anything more than a huge annoyance. Most of the recent decks in Wild that needed nerfs hinged on cards that were either bad in Standard (Darkest Hour) or Wild only (Sn1p-Sn4p’s combo, Old Quest Mage, etc.)
HoF cards in Standard are not above Wild’s power level normally. All card games need to decide on a power level for their given metas and eras (Standard, Arena, and Wild in HS for instance)
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Siperos, you have reached cringe-worthy levels of dumb.
By all you mean me, right?
It’s rather weird list considering it doesn’t contain Baku and Genn.
So maybe we should HoF Convincing Infiltrator and Bone Wraith. both seem to be auto-includes in a LOT of decks in both Standard AND Wild metas.
Convincing Infiltrator is auto-include in exactly one deck.