Why is platinum rank more valuable than gold rank on games in general?

This is not only on Hearthstone. On every other game the platinum rank is more valuable than the gold one, but why? Gold seems more beautiful and a lot of people love golden things in real life, like golden jewels.

Both gold, platinum, bronze and silver exist in real life, but I don’t understand their hierarchy on video games. Why is platinum more worthy on games? Do people really think platinum is more beautiful than gold? To be honest I think that platinum and silver have almost the same appearance.

It’s just a doubt I always had, it might sound silly, but if anyone can answer this I will be very happy.

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It’s not just video games.

Records are ranked into gold - platinum - diamond as well.

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But why is platinum better than gold?

Because it’s more expensive, therefore holds more value.

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It is about rarity not beauty.

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I recently read this about the topic:

Platinum is 30 times more rare than gold . If all the platinum ever mined were melted and poured into an Olympic-sized pool, the platinum would barely reach your ankles. Gold , however, would fill three pools.

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I could be wrong but I believe Platinum has more scientific/industrial value.

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Platinum is vastly more valuable and expensive. Like, an order of magnitude.

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Yeah and if I’m not mistaken the reason it’s more valuable is industrialk use, right?

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It’s useful, yes, and it’s very rare.

It’s used as a catalyst in chemical processing, as well as crucibles for glass melting. It has a high melting point, but is relatively inert so won’t contaminate the glass much. So you can put 1600 C melted glass in it and not have it burn through, but still keep the original glass composition.

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Waaaay back before video games there were these crazy things called pen and paper games. One of those was called Dungeons & Dragons. E. Gary Gygax, rest his soul, laid out coin denominations based on rarity. Platinum was the most valuable. Many, many games have done the same since.

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The real question is why Diamond is more valuable than gold and platinum? It’s hard to compare rarity between an element in its pure form (gold) vs an element in a certain structure (diamond), but Diamond in respect to gemstones are actually very common and held higher in value more due to the world monopoly and the marketing of the gemstone. There are many gemstones far better in aesthetics and rarity than diamonds. Diamonds are actually useful for tools, but these are industrial grade, not meant for gemstones due to poor aesthetic, and are very cheap in regards to many aspects beyond precious gems and metals. They are very useful for cutting, but their abundance (again, non gem grade) puts them lower than gold and platinum.

Let’s then talk about usefulness. Platinum is far more scarce, thus making platinum are more valuable material in terms of rarity, but Gold seems to see a higher prominence in industrial/electrical properties than Platinum. This may be because of the actual rarity of Platinum, the physical properties, or both. Gold and Platinum seem to share very similar properties, though Platinum I feel like has more value in industrial based reactions than gold does from what I’m reading. This is actually a big rabbit hole of information and I am no expert regarding this topic, which makes me really curious what could be deemed more valuable if scarcity wasn’t factored in. Please correct me if I’m wrong on this because I am now really curious.

One big factor is malleability and ductility. Gold and Platinum are both malleable, meaning they can be hammered or shaped with relative ease. Ductile addresses how well the metal can be stretched and tolerate tensile force, and Gold has the advantage here. Thin sheets of gold can be stretched to layer things like astronaut visors, wires, and many other components that platinum can’t be stretched. Combined with how valuable platinum is to gold, you would need more platinum for what gold can do for those specific functions where ductility could be advantageous.

In the end, they’re probably using the current hierarchy due to the ubiquity of this value standard in the game world. Most games follow this silver gold (platinum) diamond (top rank) chain and others just follow without question.

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Yeah, just like other answer.

Its more rare yet high demand in industry. Getting used in automotive and several electronics, important catalyst, even wanted for many research too. which means huge amount of it needed. But hard to be mined.

Only several exotic material and rare earth stuff have higher price.

The one that feels weird is the diamond, actually. Have much less use, abundance in nature, and can be synthesized. Expensive just because social construct.

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Cut gemstones like diamond have historically been worth more than gold and I think Hearthstone, being set in a fictional historical universe, probably cares more about that than industrial use or modern synthesis.

Also in what world is diamond not useful? There’s a reason why people have developed techniques to synthesize it. It has tremendous industrial use because of its hardness. I’ll also point out that modern synthesized diamond can very easily pass as a gemstone, the distinction of “industrial grade” is largely made up and the diamond market is very artificial and regulated. Mined gemstones are more expensive pretty much exclusively because that’s how the diamond industry wants it to be. But that’s a digression. Again, this is a freaking fictional historical setting, none of that matters.

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TL;DR

People have accepted the average value based on marketing for these metals and gemstones comparatively, and have therefore applied them as a generic valuation framework.

Longer and educating version:

Whoa - you picked a good topic. I’ve never seen so much personal opinion spread so openly when there exists an abundance of facts that explains the literal and translated values to easily at the tips of everyone’s fingers.

Platinum is not always worth more than gold; however, historically it averages a value higher than gold.

Platinum is rarer than gold.

Platinum is the rarest of metals and both gold and platinum are metals.

Gold is more easily obtained (1500 tons vs 160 tons mined yearly) than platinum which contributes to the availability which ultimately ties into the economic concept of supply and demand.

Platinum is a key component in the industrial sector, but has value in aesthetic applications as well (jewelry). During the VW scandal, platinum values dropped considerably. In trading, there’s a value called the Gold:Platinum value. Here’s a look at the last 25 years https://www.bullionbypost.com/price-ratio/gold/platinum/25year/

Diamond is a completely different item that actually didn’t get its value highly over-rated until the DeBeers family. Here’s a chart from 1960 to 2016 and you can see how just the marketing of the what a diamond is and its value has drastically increased. It’s also important to note that the DeBeers family owned about 80% of the entire worlds production of an otherwise averagely priced gemstone (not metal).

People have been brainwashed into believing diamonds were more valuable because people are, on average, pretty dumb and gullible. Moreso with limited access to information, but it seems, moreso now that we have so much access to so much information. Congregating dumb people are always louder than congregating smart people. That’s a different psychological discussion.

So, the reason metals and gemstones are used to create a ranking is to show a representative value, which isn’t always accurate, but it’s, in general and averagely, understood.

People know copper is cheaper than gold is cheaper than diamonds. It doesn’t matter that 2 are metals and 1 is a gemstone. It also doesn’t matter that diamonds aren’t a tradeable stock - the mining companies are. Globally, only a small percentage of diamonds have high value (again, because the lemmings have collectively agreed that a diamond should be so expensive when worn), the majority of diamonds are not, but then again, this also requires you understand diamond valuations (the Cs - cut, clarity, color, carat). So, while there’s not correlative relevance between the metals and gemstones, they do have easy to see values in USD (or any currency) that can be correlated… generally.

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Careful,
Diamonds have a social value. Whamen measure their value based on how much their man is willing to spend on them. It doesn’t matter what “real world” ie “man’s world” value the mineral has (rarity, industrial use). Arbitrarily setting the price high increases it’s exclusivity, thereby it’s social value. Females are typically swayed by the latter, and don’t care much about the former. :smiley:

That doesn’t mean they’re “dumb” for valuing diamonds.

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Diamond are useful. But we compare it with usefulness of platinum, gold, silver, or even bronze. Diamond used in various stuff such as drilling equipment. Tho, those equipment could use synthesized diamond. The industry wont use the mined ones for the equipment because it allocated to the jewellery market.

I have a cool video for it. Tho, I cant put link coz trustfund, trustlevel, or whatever it is I dont really get it.

In short:

  • Diamond mines are deadly
  • Oversupply from the mines
  • Warlords control the mines, they cant control the supply
  • Diamond as jewellery are overpriced bubble
  • Today generations cant buy it even if they want to
  • Today generation put jewellery in lower priority
  • Many alternative gems to the diamond for the ring
  • Romantic scene in soap opera shows less diamonds
  • Artificial scarcity by the industry
  • Over supply at end user. Cos diamond aren’t being spent
  • The declining of price to maintain the demand
  • Second market competition of inherited diamonds

The last point is my case. Thx to my grandma, I dont have to buy one. Quite big too, my wife really proud of it. Appraised and washed regularly. Not that I understand of that stuff either.

Fair point, and I agree. Historically diamond does shine the most.

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I didn’t want to give a longer diamond spiel, but I’m going to.

I’m a dude, but educated, and to help educate you, here you go. Men artificially inflated the price of diamonds somewhere around 800%.

Diamonds are neither rare nor highly valued by women compared to other things (like purses and shoes). Marketing by men (look up De Beers) created a market for diamonds that didn’t exist before. Dynasties and empires traded in Gold for hundreds of years when diamonds could have been used, they just weren’t.

Our diamond market has evolved so much since the beginning that we (men and women) will pay considerably different amounts of money for indistinguishably different diamonds that to the naked eye, look the same!

I’m not talking 10s or 100s of dollars, I’m talking 10s of thousands. If you’ve never shopped for diamonds, or cared to learn more about them, I can understand how all of this is confusing or new.

Most have little clue about diamonds, their values, the why or what or even how; fortunately, you have the internet to help you learn more and dig yourselves from the oppression of ignorance! (insert cheer and TMYK GIF with the frizzy hair dude with a rainbow shirt).

While it does seem like women are the recipients of a lot of diamonds, you just don’t see women wearing a mouthful of them, and to be honest, I see more dude wearing large rocks on their ears than women on their hands - because, lets all be honest, most folks can’t afford what are considered ‘nice diamonds’, and that’s how they get a lot of people. Keeping up with the Joneses is a real issue fueled by marketing and the corporations of the world.

Diamonds are generally valued by the 4 C’s. Cut, Color, Clarity, Carat. Usually, people only care about Carat (size of the ring by weight used in gemstones - 1 carat is about 200 milligrams). The other C’s are where the expenses start stacking. I bought a $9,000 diamond. That’s just the diamond, not the ring, and I’ve bought a few diamonds at less than $1000 total. Total weight of the single diamond was 1.22 carats. The smaller diamonds were more in weight, but less in color, cut and clarity. The cut is another big differentiator of price. Different cuts require different tools and precision, and they also allow the diamond to show more reflected light than refracted or filtered; Cuts can also be of different quality. Clarity is how free of occlusions and imperfections the stone is. The naked eye can arguably not tell the difference between VS on up (the scale is Semi, or SI, and that has ranks SI1, SI2, then VS, then VSS, then IF then F), and this is where the color and cut really make a difference. VS and VSS are generally at the high point of what you’d find in a store that specializes in diamonds. IF (Internally flawless) and F (Flawless) are really rare, as diamonds are all founded in carbon and dirt. Realistically, you need a microscope or loupe to be able to find the differences between the VS-VSS and IF-F.

There also is no comparison in value with “usefulness”. That term and frame of thinking is how poor people stay poor. Usefulness doesn’t make money; hustle does. If you can sell salt to snail, and your conscience is relatively indifferent or non-existent; you’re likely to make a lot of money (think wolf of wall street). Also, gemstone usefulness is vastly different in application than metals. This is basically the difference between geology and chemistry. Might as well be comparing the value of wood to vanilla bean ice cream.

As far as hardest material type utility - wurtzite boron nitride and lonsdaleite (newer materials in the past decade) are the hardest. Diamond has a hardness rating of 10 for a compacted material, and tungsten has the highest tensile strength.

Diamonds have a value because men created the space for them to, and then convinced (mainly Americans) to value them so highly. Diamond values weren’t really a thing until well into the 1800s, but the biggest jump was when the De Beers organization (which had the monopoly on diamond mining, not the warlords, until about the 1980s, when they started selling parts of it off) created the market and campaigns to socialize how important this unimportant gem was.

An organization of men that created the first “Bedazzled” mad rush.

I have always appreciated diamonds. The ability for a gemstone to create such light and shine when perfectly crafted. A diamond is more of a status symbol than actual valued item of trade. It’s like the original Superman comic book. Only someone interested would value it that high. If you don’t value diamonds that high, then that’s good for you! Most of the world does because men created the market for it and the sheeple followed.

Thankfully, we’re overstocked globally with diamonds AND De Beers hasn’t been a monopoly for a few decades now. Prices are dropping and with manufactured diamonds made of the same material but coming in perfect (and to color of choice), it’s becoming more obvious how much better manufactured lab diamonds are than mined (both are REAL diamonds).

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If you give a woman a “fake” diamond jewelry that’s 99.9% indistinguishable from a real one, that cost 300 $ instead of 10,000, she will still be pissed off. They don’t value literal things. They value how much, as in a cut of your earnings, that you’re willing to spend. That’s why debeers are genius

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Platinum is a rarer and more expansive metal then gold thus has higher value.

True facts out there somewhere in the universe there will be a ‘gold’ planet and a ‘platinum’ planet, they will have been formed by there stars having a abundance of such metals.

Its also possible there is more silver on the moon then Earth, although we don’t know for sure…yet!

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