Why is my MMR so high?

So I play this weird paladin that can kill those new warriors; it’s not even that known; and it was reported by a top ~300 legend that it works great.

Well the piece of s*** match-maker once I kill 1 or 2 warriors it gives me insanely impossible match-ups; e.g. a “highlander priest” lol…

I mean my rank is only diamond 5; it can’t be that high skill; I don’t even play for 2 months so I’d expect an OP deck to do well.

The player you queued into just happened to have queued Priest, that doesn’t mean they are a significantly better player, you just run into bad matchups sometimes. Play another 10 games and you’ll probably get another 7 Warriors to crush the way the meta seems to be at the moment :joy:

But the point is once I hit diamond 4 (or ged forbit 3), I get some insanely complex players most of the time. They seem to often have big Highlander decks of all the expensive legendaries; that implies they are definitely old accounts who know what they’re doing; then their skill appears very high because they will do “esoteric” stuff against my deck that make me think “this guy definitely knows very well how THIS paladin deck works” (and it’s not even an old deck (it’s literally 2 days old (they literally got out of their way to know 2 day old decks of all OPPONENTS))).

If you’re playing Paladin, Priest usually is a horrible matchup, because by design, Paladin doesn’t really have an option to kill you off-board. It doesn’t matter what varient of Paladin you play, your off-board damage choices are extremely limited and players know that if you keep a Paladin’s board clear, they can never threaten lethal. Priest is extremely efficient at removing boards and once they stabilise, there’s really nothing you can do other than some god tier RNG Countess into Sivara or Rommath. In any case, when Paladin is not obnoxiously overpowered, it struggles against very defensive control decks and there isn’t really a way you can build it where it doesn’t.

I once figured I can get the few spells that do that on paladin on a “TOO AGGRO” deck. The most rare one is the “attack all enemies for 2” (and you can do it twice); then the usual ones like "hit the target with 3"etc; then basically nothing high cost (it almost looked like a “Treant” deck in being only double cards etc.).

It COULD win any deck on high rolls mainly because by round 5 it could make a very big dude but ultimately it failed because if your rolls were even slightly bad you’d reach round ~7 and then the probability of winning with “pure aggro” is ~0.

Yep, trying to rely on Consecration and Hammer of Wrath to close out games as Paladin is not going to end well. Consider that all four cards together is 10 damage for 12 mana and look at what Nature Shaman or Sif Mage (both of which totally obliterate Control Priest) can do with much less mana. I’ve had turn 6s on Nature Shaman where I’ve dealt upwards of 40 damage and 10 mana turns where I’ve been able to reach over 100. Paladin simply doesn’t have the tools to do that. It is the ultimate board-centric class (hence all the cheap Divine Shield minions).

The idea of my “too aggro” deck was to very rapidly turn the shield into 0 cost. I.e. it was “use Holy spells too fast” deck esoterically (as the true mechanic of its success).

I thought I was too clever that I used the Cowboy and other esoteric Holy stuff; but ultimately it still failed; anything that explodes after round 7 denies it.

Read closely and slowly. Make sure you’re alone before making any action because they could be watching and/or listening. In fact, I’m risking quite a lot just posting this, but I’m sure you’ll make it worth it.

If you’ve come this far, I want to wish you good luck as you begin your journey of clarity of HS.

Okay. Here goes:

The system ISN’T RIGGED. You’re just unlucky or terrible at the game.

:slight_smile:

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What are you even talking about. I’m just surprised their system considers me good enough to get me those experienced players on expensive Highlander decks as opponents.

I guess you are the usual forum disruptor who just HAS to troll people with “noob!” even if it’s off topic.

What works for a 300 legend player isn’t the same as what works for diamond 5-1. This bracket is extremely sweaty and on top of that you will also be matched against lower legend players that are playing the weirdest stuff. These players are good, not that bad at building decks (however sub-optimal they can be) and very often become a pain in the butt when you are trying to target the meta. The best you can do is pick 2 or 3 decks that you enjoy and work well against whatever the meta looks like and just play a couple games of each deck to not burnout yourself. Don’t pay too much attention to what rank you’re in, try to keep over a 50% WR overall and you will eventually hit legend.

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This person always say not rigged without any proof or any evidence and when you try to ask or investigate a little - instantly gives you an ultimatum take what Cestea says as 100% truth or everything you say is wrong. :smiley:

Sometimes I wonder if high Legend players teaching what to do at diamond 1 is even a good idea; maybe their decks are usually too Highlander and custom to the point that simplistic aggro decks look more impressive to them than they should; maybe diamond 1 needs more experimentation than that.

E.g. I just noticed a high legend implying how amazing it was to use a simple excavate pala. Well ok that deck isn’t bad at all (better than the last aggro or pure pala) but I think it’s problematic in the meta of the try-hardness of diamond 1 to 5; it has so many simplistic aggro decks in there that I feel there’s just so much aggro-to-aggro overdose (e.g. getting the same warriors on and on just like the rogues last patch); maybe I should Highlander it (but I don’t have the dust maybe lol…).

I deliberately lost 50 games or so at each rank floor. Otherwise the game is not playable with all the top decks dominating diamond 5 and above.

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I conceded like 30 games last night hoping to lower my MMR enough to face players with non meta decks or fun/interesting decks but it was like no matter what it was always queue into Druid Warrior Priest (who are all auto-concede). I did eventually get a few games against other classes that are theoretically in the game and it was fun but damn, even Casual mode is filled with those 3 auto-concede classes (+Rogue). I wonder how many people even play Hearthstone for fun anymore or if the majority left are just bots/netdecks. :disappointed:

I suspect I’m close to the true …truth about it. The secret appears to be to make your own deck nobody else had.

a) The good news is if you’re smart you may make a deck and enjoy it

b) Bad news is if you’re not good at making decks it’s still pain

c) Good news is that’s probably the true good card play