ok so… for context… i have played hearthstone since hearthstone first came out… for a few years i stopped playing it as my friends stopped for a bit due to the toxic nature of the game at the time period (when people used to infinite combo and such before the rebalancing of those op cards), i am used to bad mannered players wasting time in game and only playing the last like 5 seconds of every turn (i do know the difference between someone figuring out what they are gonna do next and someone clearly wasting time, noting that i don’t have anything against people taking their time but i do have problems with people actively wasting time every turn), i am not the greatest at the game and most of my decks are silly weird decks that just do things that people don’t expect… a perfect example is i have a rouge deck that i named rando cardrissian, its literally a deck that has all cards (except maybe 10 cards) have either “discover” or “add” a “random card to your hand” either being “from an opponents class” or just completely random, its based off of the concept of “if i don’t know what i am playing, they don’t know what i am playing” and it just leads to some of the most fun games i have ever had…
my question is… why queue for casual (my preferred format as there’s no card restrictions) if all you are going to do is immediately concede… it frustrates me to no end… i can understand if the reason is you think its gonna be a bad matchup… but even then like at least play out 5 turns to see if they are really running a deck that’s too strong or even something silly… but i want to know WHY? why concede before the match even begins… i cant imagine that CASUAL affects the matchmaking system for ranked or anything like that… i think players should at least play a few turns before just conceding immediately… why even bother queuing up if all you are going to do is concede… i think its just bad manners, like i want to play hearthstone, and have a good match and a decent battle, while i am not great at the game and don’t necessarily have a good selection of cards to work with… i at least expect people to play the game and not just immediately concede… i want to have fun and have both players trying their best and then when the game is over i usually end off with a well played and thank you… but i just see this a really bad manners… play the game, try your best, even if you get a bad hand just play it out and see what happens…
look i am not asking this to offend anyone here… i legitimately want to know why are people just immediately conceding… did you get a bad hand?, did you accidentally select the wrong deck on the play screen? did you play against me before and have a bad experience(not trying to be vain in this regard)?, could some one out there please help me to understand why i see in casual every 3 out of 5 games i play, that someone immediately concedes.
dont have to read your entire post to giveya an answer
ppl hate your class and just immediatly assume you play what they hate…does not matter weither its meta or not…simply salty ppls
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see i can understand that reasoning, i just wish people would give the match-up a chance, and play out a few turns
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Ranked no surrender early
not sure what you mean there but i am fairly certain what you are saying is “in ranked play there’s no early surrendering” and while that may be true, i don’t know how to access a “ranked casual format” as i said in my post… i prefer to play with all the cards… and that i am not very good at the game… ranked play (at least in most games not sure in this one) generally has a huge crowd of high tier players with way better deck construction skills and i generally don’t have fun in that kind of play style as i lose alot against people of that skill level…
Or maybe the issue lies with you? If you are playing what is commonly know as the power gaming meta class/deck then try something else if you want more games, why expect people to bend around your will and wants?
i am not trying to bend people around my will or anything, i have around 24 different decks i play, each unique and play different then the last split about evenly amongst all the classes (except paladin as i am not good at constructing decks for it) and i often play a different deck each time i queue for playing, the deck listed above is just an example of one of the decks i have and play
to be correct…your not entirely dodging the high tier decks by playing in casual
ppl goes in casual to
1- test out a meta deck to get a feel of how to play it b4 going into ranked
2- test out a non-meta self-made deck to see if its sturdy enough to enter ladder play
3- chill(your case)
4-roping bots since the new system reward for play time instead of match wons
about 60% for meta tester
about 30% for ppl chilling
about 5% for both ppl testing a self-made deck and bots ropping
% for bots could be lil off but thats an approximate % base on personnal experience…same goes for the rest
ppl that just wanna chill and not deal with meta get frustrated often since there is a huge % of ppl playing high tier deck in casual
EDIT: forgot to include the % for ppl just doing their quest…meh…lazy to fix it :3
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and thats fair, i am there for that 30% of players chilling, i am just confused about the whole instantaneous concede thing… before theres even a single mana played or sometimes even hands being selected… i have no issues with the people in casual… its just frustrating to not actually play any amount of the match and just get conceded to before the game even begins, as i said it seems 3 out of every 5 games i queue for ends up being an immediate concession, plus the only reason why i avoid ranked is ranked is comprised of almost all meta players while with casual there still is that 30% chance of hitting a chill player
Edit: its not that i hate playing against meta decks its just that i don’t play ranked because i am not aware if there is a ranked casual format (where there’s no card restrictions as i like playing a lot of the cards from the witchwood and most of the other formats seem to strip them from play), or the reverse where it strips the classic cards from play as well…
edit 2: and yes i do lose a lot still in casual as well but often times the meta decks i run into in casual still seem pretty chill as often times the meta players in casual aren’t playing at 100% and still seem to be sussing things out or testing things so they tend to play a decent game, (often times it ends up being a close match which i enjoyed playing in)
I guess that makes some sort of sense… if its the quest were its play 3 games as x classes, i can see how that would be a quick way to get those over with… and i wont refute that its efficient to do it that way, i still think its frustrating being on the other side of that tho
I think the real question is why do you find it objectionable for people to concede immediately in casual? If you are just chilling playing some games because you dont think your decks are good enough to compete in ranked…what difference does it make if you queue up and someone insta concedes? You just queue back into another game.
If they choose to concede because they’d rather not play against your class, or because they queue’d into the wrong mode, or to quickly finish quests; why would they need to play a few turns before conceding? that just wastes more time for them and you as you don’t get to play a full game anyway.
The real question should be “why does it bother you so much that people concede?”
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It’s very easy:
if opponent is priest: concede
if opponent is not priest: play the game
Both for ladder and casual, but in casual I occasionally concede against meta decks (if the game starts and the opponent is baku rogue, why should I waste my time)
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i think the reason it bothers me so much is because it happens so often… i seem to almost always get queued into the people who do instant concede, i am not saying they have to play a few rounds before conceding as people do what they want when they want, i think it just bothers me to only ever get maybe 2-3 actual matches in out of maybe a total of 15 queues when i have the time to play, to give a decent analogy of what i am talking about, its like going to a singular water slide at a water park, you spending 2-3 minutes in line and every 2-4 times you do the lifegaurd says “sorry sir you have to return to the back of the line” and end up spending another 2-3 minutes in line… by then end of the day you really only get maybe 2-3 rides in before you have to leave, the same could be said for my experience with hearthstone, i queue up ready to play a game and my expectation is a decent match to have a good game with and right as the game starts it immediatly ends, forcing my to wait another 2-3 minutes for a match… by the end of the day i really only get maybe 5 matchs out of a total of maybe 15-20 total queues, which can be entirely frustrating, all i want to do is play a couple matches each day and with the limited time i have to play the game somedays there is some reasonable frustration that can come from waiting so long just to get an actual match… i would be much less frustrated if i got maybe 3-4 instant concedes a day but it happens way to often and it can be a little frustrating. you know?
I do this to priest. I don’t want to wait around for them to play solitaire, and, especially in casual, that’s pretty much all they do. Not waiting to see if it’s an exception, just re-queue and move on.
Also, if you have two minute queue times something isn’t right.
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i would like to add a thank you for everyone heres input, it does help me better understand peoples reasoning for the instant concession thing, while i still find it frustrating it does really help me shine a new light on why people do this sort of thing
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They dont want to be around your toxicity.
to werewolfman
clarifying formats btw
Casual = ALL Cards
Standard = 4-6 latest expansion cards only + Core set
Wild = ALL Cards
Classic = Original Cards b4 any patches or expansion ever got release
to lowrollb: he’s not being toxic…ppl in casual assume that he play a toxic deck…not the same thing…imagine you were the new player guy and you get call out toxic for picking a class ppl hate without you knowing and to top it off your not even playing it in a style ppl hate but just because you chose the class you get all the hatred regardless of the facts
secondly what do you see in his posts that is toxic at all ? he hasn’t been rude or anything
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thank you for helping clarify the formats, as i said i am not great at the game, and when it comes down to posting i am a relatively chill and level headed individual, reading through peoples posts after my initial post is helping me better understand the reasoning behind this entire thing, its what i did ask for in the initial post with “i legitimately want to know why people are just immediately conceding”, plus i generally enjoy civil discourse over a subject like this as it helps me gain a better understanding of peoples reasoning and logic, and it is as you said here in this post, i don’t play toxic decks, i generally come up with an idea and run with what i have to see if it would be fun, for me a fun deck is simply a deck that runs well and puts up a decent game, my average game (when i do get a match) lasts around 18-20 turns because both players are having fun and playing a good strong game, and yes there are quite a few games where i lose around turn 5-6 ish but those happen very rarely when either i get a bad hand or if the opponent is really just that strong, there’s very few times where i will win around turn 5-ish but that only really happens if the opponent is completely afk (which does happen)
Dude, this and your post after…why don’t you use grammar? Periods? Paragraph breaks?
Impossible to take anything you wrote seriously with that format.
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