Why do i even play minions

Now hunter gets to punish ya for playing minions. Ya basically asking for a turn 7 or 8 otk from hunter now if ya try to play for board.

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Constructed has turned into a thing where minions are bad and cards are bad. Can’t do anything without your opponent having some broken garbage or random crap from another class that got discovered, by excavating a treasured discovery of discoveries that cost 0 to discover the last 8 discoveries that you may or may not have discovered.

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They can’t make interactive cards in the slightest

Every expansion since stormwind has led us further and further down the rabbit hole

They want minions to be played and then create cards like denathrius and the DK/hunter lifesteal hound which punish you for playing minions

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Yeah dunno i know its a mobile game but pfff

I wish that every expansion since Stormwind had punished do-nothing decks more and more. That’d be a very pleasant reality.

But unfortunately that’s not what happened

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The only do nothing decks are the uninteractive ones featuring the non interactive cards

  • theotar
  • sargeras
  • azerite snake
  • most stormwind questlines
  • denathrius
  • DK/hunter hound

Etc etc

Any single cards that punish you for playing certain gameplans, any single cards that punish you for playing minions or board, any single cards that literally play their own game SHOULD NOT BE IN THE GAME

This is a pvp game. In order for both players to have fun, both need to feel like they are interacting with the opponent.

Cards like azerite snake and sargeras where you just watch them happen with 0 counterplay is not interactive gameplay. You cannot stop the snake, you cannot stop the infinite 3/4 taunts every turn. It removes all player agency. If the only counterplay is kill them first THAT ISNT GOOD DESIGN. THAT ISNT INTERACTIVE.

Cards like denathrius and the DK/hunter lifesteal hound literally punished you for playing board. You are actively punished for playing minions into these cards. You would just feed denathrius and allow them to otk you even faster by giving them bodies to trade their minions into and infuse him faster. Once you got a hunter low you were discouraged from playing any board otherwise they would instantly heal to full from 1 hound. These types of cards should not be in the game as they literally stop you from playing the game

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Win conditions do things. Specifically, they do the most important thing, reducing the opponent’s health to 0.

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Theres a difference between a win con the enemy can play around and 1 the enemy has 0 control over

You can play around a lot of wincons, anticipate when they are going to happen and be rewarded by outplaying your opponent through game sense.

Most of the best matches are when you know your opponents game plan and save certain cards, or play in a certain way, to anticipate their next steps. That is player interaction. You know what they want to do and are actively adjusting the way you play to answer.

Playing and bouncing snake 3 times is both non skillful, but also you as the opponent have no chance to prevent it from happening other than kill them faster which isnt an option unless everyone is expected to play aggro for the next 2 years. If your deck isnt designed to win by turn 8/9 you lose immediately. There is nothing you can do in the match to change the outcome because your deck has no way to answer a snake that avoids all defence

If snake was instead just lifesteal deal 10 dmg, it would allow opponents ways to play around it by using armor or defensive cards like solid alibi to anticipate it coming down and INTERACT with it.

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Translating Scrotie to English.

I hate control decks. When and if they win, it’s not a win condition I approve of.

:wink:

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False. I approve of all the win conditions. What I disapprove of is the time they spend not winning.

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Your concern is the time between the match beginning and the match ending. That time shouldn’t drag on and be unnecessarily long. Is that more accurate?

Oh, and what goes on in that time.

Well it’s not too much of a concern because good cards exist. But I imagine that would be my concern in the imaginary dystopia where RageMage would be somewhat satisfied with the meta.

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Actually the new Reno hard counters Sargeras and any other Perma portal/boat on the board.

I play minions cause they look cool…

Slagmaw is horrible, but he looks awesome so I run him.

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Sometimes I unironically envy people like this. If I could just turn all the competition and theory and drive to win off and enjoy the simple things. Thanks for sharing and a happy Thanksgiving to you.

You as well my friend.

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Im gold 7? I almost got to diamond 10 once, but I didnt really care enough to push for that. I play hearthstone cause I love the art, Its most of the time a fun game to play, and its not as toxic as overwatch(unless your running rune of the archmage, mage.)

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Timmy is a great guy. Be more like Timmy.