It’s a combination of multiple things
This is one
The other is - people just like Warrior. Historically, it has always been overplayed, and ever since I returned to the game in November last year, it hasn’t stopped being one of the strongest decks (if not the strongest most of the time)
If that was your main class for months, it’s hard to change that, especially if you use it to hit your best rank ever
Speaking from experience xD All paths lead to sludgelock now for me
I’m curious what decides whether a deck is Tier XYZ? I play Milly decks and they are the highest tier deck versus some decks like combo or control, but the lowest tier versus decks like aggression. So what tier is it? Who can say? The only thing that can confidently be said is “it depends”.
That’s not the only thing, but it’s true.
It depends on multiple factors:
a) what ranks you’re looking at,
b) what the meta looks like (most played classes and their strengths, counters, etc)
c) how difficult the deck is to get it and pilot it
People mostly use arbitrary borders between tiers. Scr0tie once told me “Everything clearly the strongest, by a lot, then most of the decks, is tier 1, every other deck with positive winrate is tier 2, and the rest is tier 3” or something along those lines, which made sense to me, but is still pretty arbitrary.
Not that it matters at all. We can communicate our points without an arbitrary categorization.
What does winrate have to do with anything? If I play Milly deck and face a lot of aggro, I get low winrate. If I play Milly deck and face a lot of combo, I get high winrate. So Tier XYZ is thus based on the time of day I play, or whatever sort of matchmaking RNG happens, etc. So how can it be given a tier rating? It’s a tier 0 deck, and a tier 1 deck, and a tier 2 deck, and a tier 3 deck, and a tier 4 deck, Depending. It’s probably the same with decks like this topic about the Highlander Warrior, okay maybe it is tier 4 sometimes but it’s also probably tier 3, tier 2, tier 1, and tier 0, Depending. So idk why the OP even asked the question, honestly.
Which is why you make tier lists for a certain period, two weeks, 1 patch tops, and then:
these don’t matter at all, because in those two weeks or that one patch, tier 1 decks are your best pick on average because they’re probably unbalanced or because other strong decks are all weak to it.
You are correct up to a point, and better systems exist, but tier lists are not that fragile as you made them.
The only thing which DOES matter, and you didn’t mention it, is that if not enough people play the deck, it won’t enter the tier ranking at all.
I’m rank 300 with sludgelock, and it didn’t hit a tier list last week, nor did I see anyone else play it in legend (from 9k to 250, cuz I’ve been to hell and back already this month, as per usual).
It happens.
Which to me, is just another proof how skill is important in this game, a fact which most of the people tend to mock in order to pet their ego and reduce suffering and frustration.
No matter how “bad” the deck is, you can still push it high if you know what you’re doing.
I think these both strike true to me from my experience with Highlander Warriors. Even when it’s 100% obvious they will lose and cannot win, they rarely give up until they play their last card. I think they are very stubborn.
But at the same time, I think they enjoy the deck strictly aiming to play Boomboss and get that rush.
When I burn their Boomboss though, they tend to quit. Burning Brann doesn’t make them quit. It’s the Boomboss. You can burn Brann and they’ll still continue playing until they can get out Boomboss just to see what it hits.
Granted, this isn’t for all players. I’m sure there are some that only have these cards for this deck or just like the Control-ish style of play, but I do believe lots of them are both stubborn and love that rush of playing Boomboss.
To each their own. I find the fight to be fun as a current DK player, so the more the merrier. I just was shocked how many people play this deck and try to play it competitively to try to rank up.
How is skill important in this game? I do remember a time this would have been true, but that was many many years ago.
Reno decks are fun for a lot of people. I would play them more myself if they released a new version of zephyrs
How isn’t it?
Some people need more time to learn, some less, but in the end when they learn it, they have the skill which lasts for a lifetime.
I’ve learned to play this game soon after it got out, hit legend top 200 on it, went away multiple times for years, returned and simply eased back into top 200 every single time.
Same people are occupying top ranks every season, on every server.
What do you mean “how is skill important”? Why are you trolling?
The new card would be called Zephyrs (the original was called Zephrys but everyone keeps spelling it Zephyrs like you did lol)
Zephyrs
3 mana
2/3
Battlecry: If your deck has no duplicates, Phish for the Werfect Card.
If you’ve played the game you would know
Same question: why are you trolling?
The funny thing is i realized i spelled it wrong after i posted but just left it because i didnt think anyone would even notice xD
Hey Altair, friendly advice - stop communicate with that… hm… thing. I sincerely believe it has not enough brain capacity to comprehend many many things. I even believe he is not trolling, he is just that stupid. Continuing to interact with that thing will lead only to your frustration.
I’m not trolling, I figured if you’ve played enough hearthstone then you would know but I guess not?
Well, you found a wrong target to troll
I play a lot and my rank shows it
Which is why I know you’re trolling.
I just can’t figure out why, what do you like about trolling?
I just told you I’m not…but I see how you are, have a nice day
I actually dont think they are trolling. I think they are genuinely expressing their hyperbole of an outlook on the game from their Obi Wan turn of phrase, “A Certain Point of View”.
They arent the only one here that has expressed similar views on the game and its difficulty or complexity or skill level required. I’ve been labelled a troll for merely saying that i miss my standard games of HS that i considered short when it would end in both players taking fatigue damage til a winner was had… and not the ridiculous turn 4 to 6 ending games where I may not have drawn a card yet I could play.
This is just my take on what Ive read of their posts in this thread. its hyperbolic, contrarian, not even all that contributing to the conversation being had at the moment, but it doesnt feel like an outright troll, but I can understand the immediate impulse to label it as such. But it just feels like another “Im so jaded by powercreep and play the meta combos” netdecker type mentality’s outlook on “skill in hearthstone? yeah right” kinda view.
These tend to be the same type of person that you might encounter when a group of you and your colleagues are discussing something in common like a sci fi series or a marvel film or [fill in the blank here] and they immediately have a completely different take and think everyone there saying otherwise is wrong. They essentially stopped a good friendly convo in its tracks and made everyone wanna just go be elsewhere. Like the real life Dwight Shrute trying to inject themselves in watercooler convos. But not even cringe funny like Rain Wilson managed to do.