Why are so many people toxic?

of course it is! HS has the most childish, nasty and toxic community in gaming history! I’d rather I lost a limb than to have installed this game.

i think it is the way blizzard automates everything. sense very few humans look at what me do now, the toxic people are gaming the system.

I’m not raging. at no point in any part of my post did i state i was raging over it. Raging is way to strong of a word for what i asked. I asked why people have a lack of sportsmanship and can’t just win a game and feel the need to spam them in the first place.

What’s so unsportsmanlike like about emoting?

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See now you’re just toxic lmao. Emotes don’t bug me. If I have a roper I just ff and move on. That’s wasting someone’s time for no reason.

Emotes don’t bug me

Did…did you even read my post then? i wasn’t just talking about normal emotes i was talking about people not taking the win when they had it and spamming emotes trying to fish for a concede. Being so rude that when you have the damage on board for a win you just sit there instead.

If you bothered to read my post you’d know that i’m just shocked over the lack of respect and the general attitude people who do that bring.

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Well, if your opponent can 100% take win here and now, but instead of this spams emotions - I would “recommend” to just stand up from your pc (or put phone in pocket) and do something else for few minutes. So opponent would think that he is wasting YOUR time - but he will waste only HIS OWN time.

I would say that it is more infuriating than actually chatting with someone. Because you have to think there is an actually human being behind this device they are playing on, and they are choosing to BM me. I have no idea what they are trying to convey. I see a lot of people who try to have fun with emotes, who say Hello at the start of the game or Wow after something crazy happens, and Well played even when they lose. And all I think to myself is how I can’t take emotes seriously.

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Let’s be clear on this - what does BM mean?

BM is Bad Manner. So using an emote incorrectly or spamming emotes is a clear form of BM in hearthstone.So is roping or quitting the game to make the enemy turn last longer. I can’t say that I don’t do this myself, I just typically BM people who start emoting when they are ahead.

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As someone who grew up and competed in environments what most would call toxic (outside of family circles, that is), online toxicity is nowhere near as bad. I can tell you that other online games don’t really get under your skin as much as Hearthstone does and for the wrong reasons. It’s not because you care that much about it, hell no. Nor it is the people who play HS are the most toxic bunch, because Hearthstone is a game where the denizens thereof aren’t even allowed to say anything of their own unless they befriend the opposition and only use premade emote buttons that -mostly- they use to annoy you and relieve themselves of the stress that comes with facing players who ALSO did the same exact thing to them. Game is brimming with RNG and this is the main source of frustration for many and where toxicity starts.

Outside of tech card choices and min-maxing, nothing in this game, not even deck building takes skill. Cards that targeted draw other cards (fish from your deck) and running the permutations and scenarios in your head to figure out 2-3 turns ahead (which resources to keep and not) may be considered to be the only two factors that doesn’t necessitate luck or RNG for the most part, because even targeted draws can fail to fish the one you need. Rest of the game is almost entirely out of your hands and what you can hope is to be able to manipulate the RNG as much in your ability to render it less hazardous to you.

Game has become a rock paper scissors game that play themselves almost like in auto-piloted mode with same set of staple cards that the playerbase have been seeing over and again for big part of the the last 6 years (classic/basic cards that saw play in almost every deck ever). I am not excusing the behaviour, but merely pointing out the most likely causes for the brewing toxicity.

Another thing is that the exaggerated animations and sound design of Hearthstone that brews banter. Something about taking damage, especially to your face Hearthstone, feels bad. Drawn-out animation sequences, booing, some of the in-game sounds, and many other factors that I’m bothered to fully list. I’d wager that the art style and bright colours also doesn’t help alleviate these symptoms either.

Lastly, the current out-of-touch, digitally conceived button mashing generation of children are born into a digitized, disconnected environment with no hardships and they are ill-equipped to deal with confrontational manners in competitive environments. Banter has been a huge part of what most now fancy calling patriarchal societies. Times change, people change, collective understanding and perceptions also change.

IMO, if people feel bothered and hurt by emotes and whatnot, let them have auto-squelch. It’s not like not allowing auto-squelch is going to change minds of those who live, breath and breed on echo-chamber grounds will make them stop becoming a part of one. Let them have it. It won’t hurt anyone, will it?

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The worst part is people are always saying “Just ignore it… It’s ONLY A GAME” How about you say “Stop being toxic” instead. The world is crappy enough without people trying to make strangers upset online for no reason. They emote all game, you take the high road and when you lose, you emote “Well Played” and they just emote “Thanks” back. So rude. People like that honestly make the world worse. They’re literally better off dead if that’s their default behavior… disrespect.

You are what your actions are, not your heart. It doesn’t matter if you think you’re a great person all day long but in a game you like to troll and make people miserable, you’re a troll. Your character isn’t judged when Grandma, your boss, or your significant other are watching… You’re judged by how you act and what you do when no one is around to criticize you. If you don’t want to be a good person, I say you’re better off in the void.

It’s because people are bored and frustrated with the game and try to “pay back”. They start to hate the game and that projects onto their opponents.

Blizzard made the game a more and more frustrating experience, every expansion made the game worser, introduced more RNG, paid adventures are back with cards you can’t access to otherwise, the new XP-System makes it way harder to farm stuff and get quick 10-20 gold for the next arena run or pack.

Imagine someone farming 3 hours to get finally that damn 10 more gold for the arena, they’ll be PRETTY toxic on the way to achieve that.

If you find anyone being “Toxic” throughout Emotes, there is always, but ALWAYS, that button to “mute” them.

How ignorant one must be to come to the forums to cry that someone has been “TOXIC” with …emotes when that personal can easily ignore the “EMOTIC TOXIC BEHAVIOR” …

Read above …

It’s called being sadistic. Experiencing pleasure because of the suffering of another.
No, it’s not a good thing.
If you care about your eternal life, you won’t be a sadistic person.

Forgive me, but, my initial reaction to this topic is don’t be so sensitive. Always keep in mind (which your these players forget) this is merely a game, ranked or otherwise. It is immaterial. I have the same issue as you because I can be sensitive. That issue is losing feels bad, and what also feels bad is when your opponent emotes bullcrap when the game goes their way. What’s worse, is when they refuse to initially kill you and finish the match but to instead draw it out in an attempt to rub their self-perceived superiority in. Brush it off, concede, and play again. **** 'em. Do not let these players get under your skin, or they win!

Remember, conceding is an option and do not let conceding make you feel any sort of way. It is necessary when your opponent behaves in these ways. Also, remember you can squelch your opponent at any time, and many players do this at the very beginning of the match to avoid situations like these.

Happy Hearthstoning! :smiley:

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It was worse when “Sorry” was in the game.

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Thank you for including this and for your words generally. I see many posts that say “don’t be so sensitive” that aren’t really helpful, but I think you actually managed it. Going to quote you again for emphasis :grinning:

If you find yourself getting annoyed or even mad about anything your opponent does while in a game with them than there is something mental with you. Honestly go play with a robot in solo adventures if a person clicking on their portrait to use a voice line makes you triggered.

Or maybe they just like to be annoying. :slight_smile: