I have a “Win a match with Warrior or Rogue quest” but…I’ve lost both matches so far.
First one to an Espionage Rogue (why meme decks are on ladder, I don’t know…) and the second to a Reno Hunter…in which case Zephyrs gave him brawl so there goes my 10/10 Edwin.
I considered going to Casual but then I thought to myself, “When does a netdeck stop being a netdeck is considered a casual deck?”
Is it when the metagame shifts and it now has answers? Or if you take any netdeck to casual, is it (generally speaking) considered offensive?
For context, I do my best to complete quests on ladder as a common courtesy and out of respect for my fellow players. I just don’t have it in me to be “that gal.”
But still, I wonder: when does a netdeck stop being a netdeck and is considered okay for casual use?
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I mean, for me, it’s: did I literally build a deck from a website because I’m bored or frustrated with the game? A deck just being meta, or literally the entire internet figuring out what cards are good before I did, does not make it a net deck.
I try not to put down other people for doing the same, so I don’t have much to say from that side of things.
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<snark>If your deck has over 20% winrate, it’s obviously too fine-tuned and/or not memey enough for casual</snark>
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A true meme deck plays nothing until turn 12.
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The moment some salty whiner starts blubbering about it on Reddit or a forum somewhere.
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Imagine how stupid society would be if we couldn’t build upon the knowledge and experience of others
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It stops being a net deck if you add your own little combo cards that sometimes do something useful but rarely get things done.
Take any rogue deck and add Deckhand, 2x coldblood and Faceless Manipulator for example. Probably not useful but when lucky the 20dmg burst might happen and matter. Then its no longer a netdeck, because it changes the way the deck is played.
A random ‘discover something’ in a netdeck is still a netdeck but with a bad tweak.
In short: if it changes how the deck is being played most of the time.
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I wouldn’t focus too much on the “netdecking” itself; by the end of the day, the interactions are what they are and other people might end up using them;
however, just entering a site like HSReplay or ViciousSyndicate and/or other sites, searching for confirmed High Winrate (around 58% winrate) builds, importing/copying them, thing by thing is what you’d want to consider “netdecking”.
The only question one should ask is, “what are you doing with a 60% winrate build in casual”? But yeah, it does tend to ruin the casual gameplay.
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Generally speaking, unrefined decks or decks that use strategies not adapted to the meta belong to the non-meta/-net deck category.
Memes, thrown-together homebrews belong to that category, too.
Ivan captured the frame, in which a meta deck/ net deck becomes non-meta, pretty accurately.
Changes that streamline the deck, even if they are greater in scope, do not necessarily make it non-meta, however.
Because the idea behind that deck has not truly changed.
While it is a less likely scenario, due to most netdecks already being heavily streamlined:
Local metas may expect you to “stretch” the main strategy of a deck for the sake of flexibility, be it smorc or resident sleeper.
That does not make it not meta/netdecked.
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Blizzard themself encourage players to “netdeck”.
When you open the deck-builder there is a big button with “Complete My Deck”.
I think it’s a popular feature and I myself use it sometimes too, especially on mobile. It’s frustrating to build a deck on a phone. Also it’s useful to see what’s the best deck according to Blizzard (with the collection the player has).
So yea, Netdeck will never stop, it’s part of Blizzard strategy… “get a deck quick and play a game”.
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There are no “Casual” decks just as there are no “Ranked” decks, the only distinction for Play mode is Wild vs Standard.
If I encounter a deck I don’t care to play against in Casual I just concede and move on to the next match.
You really shouldn’t worry about that. There’s no limitation to what is apropriate for Casual.
Any Wild deck is apropriate for Wild Casual and any Standard deck is apropriate for Standard Casual.
Stop getting hung up on some whiners going on about “netdecks ruin the game”.
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if you pick decks based on winrate you are net decking.
also nets decks are not the problem, it is the fact we are not allowed to not play agaisnt them. the problem is people dont want to play against try hards every time they play, not that net decks exist.
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If I see people pulling some super nuanced combos that a week ago I had not seen ever before (such as 2,000 armor druid) it’s probably a netdeck.
If I see people playing cards that I had otherwise not seen being played in 6+ months, it’s probably a netdeck.
If I see some gimmick combo being played after seeing it on YouTube a few days prior, it’s a netdeck.
If I can predict or call the shot of every card this person is using in a matchup I saw ten times already, it’s a netdeck.
Netdecks are the peak of unoriginal and predictable decks that focus on ladder rank and power plays. If you have to make a deck work by making yours 85% identical to the next person playing the same thing, it’s a netdeck.
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I think the term “netdeck” gets confused sometimes.
A NETdeck is a deck that someone got off of the internet (the “net”).It might not even be a good deck for the meta, but it generally refers to any deck at all that you can just go to a meta site and copy down for personal use. It’s not a power level thing, though typically people tend to copy the stronger ones.
TL:DR - a netdeck stops being a netdeck when it’s no longer the deck you copied from the internet.
Also, don’t let people make you feel bad if you copy a deck then make tweaks. Pros do it all the time when streaming, even Kibler’s Mech Paladin was one that he openly claimed was another streamer’s deck that he made a change or two to.
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Casual mode is for practicing your netdeck.
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Funny, I actually take my crap self-made quest objective completion decks to ranked, netdecks in casual is why people are turned off to ccg’s. You in legendary rank, pushing for points to qualify for that tourney? If not there’s no excuse.
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you can do anything you want, but casual is not “for” anything and it would better if people did not “practice” tier one decks agisnt people with tier homebrew. it doesnt help you get better at anything to stomp random people.
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you cant earn tourney point on ladder anymore. because actual pros and tournament runners know being high rank is about haveing no life, and very little about skill.
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There’s nothing wrong with using information from outside sources to make your deck better and there’s nothing honorable about intentionally playing bad decks in casual mode.
If you’re removing cards from a deck just so that you can claim it’s not a netdeck (for who? The deck police?) then consider just playing the cards that you want instead of bending over backwards to appease a bunch of stranger of the forums.
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Only the snowflakes can answer that question
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