I’m not following the news but while I watch the World Championship yesterday, I saw people said in chat that he was banned from next tournament forward because of cheating.
What did he do? Does that mean this tournament is his last HS tournament in his career?
He did win trading.
But he might have done more than that. He’s banned from the Masters League 2019.
His lineup was probably the best for the HCT 2018, and he’s a fantastic player, so sad he wanted to take unnecessary shortcuts.
Stream sniping and win trading.
did he do it again??
No, he is being properly penalised for previous infractions in the coming year. Pretty sure he can still qualify through masters (will have to find the source) , but he is not a part of the grandmaster tour in the coming year.
E: Source:
https://www.hearthpwn.com/news/6465-roger-and-reall-banned-from-hearthstones
Stream sniping on reynad27.
Impossible to beat reynad27 unless you are sniping.
I voted for him and I think he seems like a great guy.
I LOVE that he took a NOT-META path to WC.
Like rooting for someone who plays the-same-decks as everyone else…the best…subjectively is def not my style.
I like the risk-taker.
The guy who plays not-meta cards and decks.
Credit where it’s due, so no offense meant, but did you SEE the RNG/hit Face got in 3 of his matches?
First off Face topdecked Prep for a T4 I believe 2-card win combo Prep Raiding. So yea, that topdeck was incredibly lucky. Grats to Face just saying it was lucky…by far the best-card he could of topdecked.
IIRC Face won a 1/5 brawl to leave Roger with a 1/1. Geese.
Next match, Face won a 1/6 iirc brawl to keep his own Zilli 7/7…which may let Rog live another draw for sure.
So at this point Face had won 2 < 20 percent Brawls back to back in back to back matches. That is luck-defined. Even happening once, but twice?
Then he topdecked what omega to find “deal 10 damage” I believe.
Topdecked Zilli the turn before that.
There was a 3rd back to back topdeck that was like primo-draw.
Final match Face (not very lucky on this one) hit Boom off his mulligan…but still it was a slight luck there.
Again, credit where it’s due, but especially prep-topdeck-for-raiding party
and 2 back to back brawl wins on < 20 percent were incredibly lucky.
Yea, Roger missed 8 damage for logic-that-escapes me…but that 8dmg didn’t end up mattering due to trip-topdecks and a massive brawl-win.
Watching these matchups is like…the exact opposite of Wild.
Its like the game has life.
Decisions everywhere.
Thinking.
Instead of “ok cool u hit ur mana-cheat for turn-4/5/6” GG
or “ok u hit ur Shadowstep Coldlight for mill” gg
Or “ok ur playing aggro and hit prep-raiding party”
Nerf mana-cheat
Nerf Coldlight to be-untargetable
Nerf raiding party to not-cost-0 with prep…since 0-cost draw is super-OP.
Buff a LOT of unplayable cards.
Revert a couple classic set nerfs like Wild Growth Flare Mark and so.
But first they have to decide WIld is worthy of Balance instead of some format that caters to those who 'absolutely want the-same decks, with the same-powerlevel and mana-costing cards, for all time".
One of his team mates sniped another team in the global games last year. Iirc Roger and the other 2 weren’t priorly aware of what that guy was doing ,according to the video evidence. The whole team was disqualified.
Also, iirc, the trading was one incident of him letting his friend have a win end of season.
He should be punished but the reaction against him from the community seems a little excessive,based on the information I’ve heard, anyway.
Excessive is an understatement. But it is Twitch chat. If these forums are considered to be even remotely toxic, Twitch chat is a toxic waste dump.
Yeah, I’ve not seen Twitch go to work on him but I’d expect that, too.
I meant more forums and pundits. I was disappointed with Value Town the other week, they seemed to completely forget the mitigating factors they’d talked about 6 months earlier.
I havent seen that TBH, I dont really pay too much attn to podcasts etc. and I guess I was one of them on the old forums (or maybe it was early on here, was a while back regardless) when I realised just how lightly he got off. I was only aware of the HGG incident, but not of the win-trade thing and the penalty simply didnt fit with what offenders from previous years got for the same offense of win-trading.
Yeah, I’m fine with the penalty, it’s unfortunate for the 3 of them who were passive participants, but you need serious deterrents. And for 2 strikes you need to go the next step. I just think Roger is unfortunate that he has to be made an example of, and I’ve seen a lot of criticism without context.
I commute a hell of a lot so VT and TAC are a part of my extensive podcast arsenal ![:grin:](https://dacy5cilkxabf.cloudfront.net/en/hearthstone/images/emoji/twitter/grin.png?v=6" ":grin:")
This is also the information I have heard. It did seem he was quite unaware that Shaxy was sniping because he actually asks him how he knew some information about the game, which is what got them disqualified. Also the win trading incident didn’t even seem to help him as he left the game v a friend, from what I heard.
I think its funny that Muzzy always leaves games v Dog before they even begin and no one says anything because he is “hiding his lists”.
Both winner and loser get pinged regarding win-trading incidents. That has been true since the beginning.
Now THIS is interesting, I have not heard of this one. have you got sources (not calling you a liar, I am just really curious about it 
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I’ve seen it happen twice while watching Dog stream. I’m sure you can watch some of Dog’s VOD’s and find them in there.
nah, im not that interested that im gonna go searching through 100’s of hours of footage just to find it.
Lol I wouldn’t either. I’m sure someone else here who watches Dog has seen it too.
Another thing to consider is win-trading is only a “punishable” offence when HCT points are on the line (AKA when ladder mattered). So, if these are recent incidents, now that ladder is all but irrelevant, while Muzzy has qualified to the finals in progress. It would make sense that he wouldnt want his lineup shown to 10k viewers before lineups were submitted.
Its all a matter of context, I guess. Either way if its in anyway comparable then someone needs to do the legwork to find the evidence and report it if they believe its on the same level. If it was Muzzy you were watching, that would be a completely different story!
I don’t really think any of them should be punished for 1 game (If they are doing it over and over to actually gain an advantage then ok, punish them). Its comparable but I think since Muzzy did it recently… he probably won’t get punished since HCT points technically were not on the line.
Its not really comparable though. Muzzy having qualified for the main event, doesnt want a streamer with Dogs level of viewership to see his lineup before he submits it. Thats not the same as conceding in a HCT point earning season to a friend, anymore than I am win trading when I concede to the same player I have just faced and know his deck hard-counter mine in the scrub ranks.
Rogers incident happening in a point earning season is far more questionable, than a HCT finalist wanting to protect his lineup from thousands of viewers before submissions.