Warlock Badlands Rant

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I am making this thread in response to a lot of dribble from this thread here. New mining warlock excavate cards revealed - #60 by Schyla-1490

Hearing people freakout over Warlocks Excavation Snake reward are way out of line.

The majority of cards Warlock got are complete trash. Especially it’s excavate cards. They want Warlock (first of all) to spend 800 dust for a worse Mortal Coil.

Look how trash that Epic card is for an excavate card. We have to deal 1 damage an KILL the target to then excavate a single treasure. This piece of junk should be deal 1 damage excavate a card, if the target dies draw a card for being an epic imo. Like C’mon this is not good, followed up by Warlock’s 4 mana Yeti with Taunt? That’s it? It has to die to get a treasure to boot, so it’s delayed unless the Warlock sac’s it off.

So there’s Warlocks excavate cards, an wooo the class get’s a trashy neutral 2 drop everyone who got stuck slaving in the mines for the expansion has to run. Followed by some other piece of junk 5 mana rush minion. But at least those cards have Battlecry.

Mind you, if a Warlock in a single match played allllll of those cards they get a max of x2 Snakes. But ohh no, the Snake has Battlecry… it does a crazy effect… that every other Azerite theme’d creature does… Sounds like a win the game card. My issue is Warlock compared to Deathknight has WAY better excavate cards.

Deal 3 damage to any target, get a treasure? Their 4 mana minion instantly gives a treasure an IT COST ZERO LOL.

I would LOVE to have there epic payoff card compared to Warlocks garbage Legendary Tram guy. They get a 7 mana 7/7 taunt an a fat discount of ANY card for 7 mana.

Meanwhile what does Warlock get? A totally garbage legendary slot 7 mana 4/4 that spawns a board of 3/3’s with Rush. If you have ever played Warlock, especially right now with Crazed Conductor you ought to know an even EARLIER board of 3/3’s just get’s swatted away like nothing. Now imagine being at 7 mana like that card will do something.

Warlocks odd Soul chick card who did the same with Soul Shards was equally super bad. I know, played the card. I am super sad they went that lazy with that design an brought it back.

The only thing I want to bring positivity too about the cards from Badlands is 2.

#1.) Fracking.
This card is a 1 mana scry bottom deck an draw. Yeah we have to blow up x2 cards to draw it (cause hurr durr warlock things) but this is still a good card to pick up for your collection if you like Warlock.

#2.) Pop’gar the Putrid.
This card right here, is going to be the cause of a nerf an I hate it for that reason. The card is really good, but what’s the problem no one has mentioned? Ohh, well I’ll give you guys spoilers… This is going to turn Crescendo into a 1 mana massive Lifesteal board clear.

Which guess what else use to be a giant problem when that was around? Ding ding… Demon Hunter remember?

The other cards for Warlock are just so disappointing. We have the sludge mechanic which wants to place them on the bottom of the deck. The 2 drop will place 2 on landing in board an death. An the Rush minion at least gives 1 in the hand instead of just placing on bottom of deck. Yet this mechanic always targets the lowest health target.

So Paladins annoying tokens? Woo a wasted 3 damage on it. None of them can trigger all together. An we have a 4 mana 7/7 that deletes our deck, which wow… let us help you defeat us by destroying our deck, an you play your what? Brand new Deathknight 1 mana removal an your good.

I just had to get this massive rant off my chest. Cause seeing people claim “Warlocks the King of excavate” BS! Was so unreal the class is NOT anywhere close to amazing with what it got. An that fact that I love this class an can notice we’re going to get nerfed again because of a lifesteal wipe with Crescendo just makes me even more sad.

If you like Warlock like I do, best of luck to us in the expansion. I am going to destroy with Pop’gar before the nerfs come. But our Legendary excavate treasure is by no means “the best” when it comes to “getting it in hand”.

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Alright man, I was waiting for the expansion to release to post a response just to check in to see if you still felt this way now or if we were all justified in freaking out over the Excavation Snake? I only write this now because you specifically linked to me.

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In before “meta is still young who knows what’ll develop.”

Fantastic core plan but I think you jumped the gun about half a week.

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No, I didn’t want to wait until a week later because it wouldn’t give either of us a chance to still be wrong it would just be settled.

I wanted to see if Theman would still hold his views based on the first day of release. This isn’t a “gotcha” post. If it was a gotcha post, I would wait a week, see if it’s amazing, then go “gotcha, see?” but instead I give Theman the benefit of the doubt. Afterall, we’re in game friends and have been friends for years now.

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  1. You say that like it’s a bad thing. I am pro gotchya posting. There are nice ways to do it.
  2. It REALLY looked like a gotchya post to me. Still does. I don’t see how it isn’t.

But hey, if you say that this wasn’t the intention, that’s good enough for me. None of my business anyway.

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Could it not be that in 1 week the combo turns out to be not THAT bad? If that’s a possibility, and Theman is still correct in his original post, there’s no gotcha.

I’m basically asking him if the possibility of that still being true exists.

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I havent even played the expansion yet, work and school sad violin noises, but im gonna re-posit my long running theory on incoming nerfs based on this post. ‘Complaint’ threads dont necessarily equate to a nerf, correlation and causation and all that. BUT, anytime i see a defense post for a card or a deck that bastard always gets nerfed. Lets see if my hypothesis continues to hold true.

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Its just a boring game plan… draw a couple of cards with a keyword… play them… get massive reward.

Not much different than quests. These linear decks with huge payoffs just for playing some cards just leads to the same games over and over… which leads to the game getting stale in 3 hours

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Are you insane this already aged like milk, saying they get a max of 2 snakes is downright incorrect, you really thought people were gonna sit there and excavate to top tier again and not just bounce the same snake over and over? You can easily kill any deck in the meta with warlock, no idea what you're on about.
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Another classic problem card everyone saw coming, except blizzard because they never see anything coming. Have fun in seedlock 2.0 meta.
Its probably nerfed just in time for next expansion though. No worries.

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Warlock actually has the best Excavate generation between the Excavate Classes.

Complaining about Smokestack while Mage has to spend twice the amount of Mana only to freeze an enemy xd

Theman was just biased.
Warlock got if not the first, the second best Excavate package.

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And warrior has to spend 3 mana on a conditional execute to excavate.

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Exactly it’s not even comparable.

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Other classes: Have excavate mechanics.
Kewl: It’s not even comparable.

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Checked the forums today to see what people we’re thinking of the expansion. An saw this thread of mine had 14 replies to it, so expected something juicy. Took 16 days for it to finally get a reply lol.

I still feel the same way Schyla. An you want to know why? Because the Expansion dropped just yesterday… I haven’t even had a chance to try Excavate Warlock.

I got to login yesterday, and I spent my time doing the dailies I saved up, opened up the 9 packs I had (plus spent the gold from rewards track on more badland packs). Got nothing I wanted. An spent 1,600 dust on Pop’gar, an another 1,600 on Reno hero card.

An then I went to play ranked wild with my modifications to the deck like I wanted. Goofy cards like Trapdoor Spider, Fracking, etc.

I actually didn’t have much success. I would’ve been up to Diamond 1 but suffered TWO game breaking crashes from playing the Reno Hero card. I dunno why casting it caused my game client to completely crash an fail to reconnect but yeah… So that annoyed me.

As for playing standard an the snake card? No dice. I would have to spend 1,000 dust for a second copy of the drill guy, the neutral drill, an x2 copies of smokestack. And I am not paying 800 dust for those.

The forums are FULL of Snake threads like omg. I honestly have no clue how the deck is good in the meta. I can’t believe it’s apparently slow enough for Warlocks to play garbage like bouncing bears in the deck lol!

I was reading them an saw that Aethris was showing a tweet that I guess Warlocks Snake is getting nerfed already this Friday… like really Blizzard? All it makes me think of is people like “Zeddy, the Douchebag of Hearthstone” prob crying up a storm, making tweets an videos about it, yet stuff like Dragon Druid he was playing on stream was way more fluid an powerful in matchups. (I saw him actually cry during stream about his warlock opponent saying how he lost blah blah, an won anyway with his Druid deck for example).

You know when people get data an show the class win rates with there lil pictures on the list? I expected Warlock to be number 3 or 4 on the list. An I know it’s already “getting nerfed” but I suspect Warlock is for sure not even the best deck at all in Standard.

So yeah man this is my honest take. I truly believe it’s not this monster. More like the “Pure Paladin” of Warlock decks that is just spitting on mediocre decks. It’s a shame that crying losers can garner up such a response to guarantee a nerf to a card on such an early basis but alright. I feel like a normal human, who plays when I can, and to think the game is going to nerf something I haven’t even gotten a chance to try just makes me roll my eyes.

Hearing how they’re going to nerf it for sure, makes me glad I didn’t bother chucking 1,000 dust on the cards to play it in standard at least lol.

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That’s not what this post did xD

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